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Post by Allison on Apr 11, 2017 1:47:05 GMT
The Originals- 4.05 I Hear You Knocking
DARK MAGIC – After being marked by The Hollow’s dark magic, both Klaus and Marcel experience the symptoms of a malevolent haunting, forcing the two adversaries on a violent collision course. Meanwhile, Hayley and Elijah head out to speak with Mary after Hayley uncovers a mysterious link between the dark magic and her former wolf pack. Finally, as an exhausted Freya risks her own life to cure Klaus’ infection, a guilt-ridden Keelin must decide whether to honor her hippocratic oath and help Freya – or flee the Mikaelson’s forever.
I will be disappointed if we end up with only a few episodes where Marcel is reconciled with his family. On the plus side, The Originals maintained its 0.4 rating an stayed at over a million viewers with a 1.08 in overall viewers so we have a ratings pattern, a higher rating on Friday than a few shows over the last few weeks, including Riverdale this past week. I know a fifth season is unlikely because of the last few years but it's like I said, I'll settle for a finale written as the series finale and the CW looking like idiots- they explain their network's bad ratings average.
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Post by Madamimadam on Apr 11, 2017 3:38:54 GMT
The Originals- 4.05 I Hear You Knocking DARK MAGIC – After being marked by The Hollow’s dark magic, both Klaus and Marcel experience the symptoms of a malevolent haunting, forcing the two adversaries on a violent collision course. Meanwhile, Hayley and Elijah head out to speak with Mary after Hayley uncovers a mysterious link between the dark magic and her former wolf pack. Finally, as an exhausted Freya risks her own life to cure Klaus’ infection, a guilt-ridden Keelin must decide whether to honor her hippocratic oath and help Freya – or flee the Mikaelson’s forever.
I will be disappointed if we end up with only a few episodes where Marcel is reconciled with his family. On the plus side, The Originals maintained its 0.4 rating an stayed at over a million viewers with a 1.08 in overall viewers so we have a ratings pattern, a higher rating on Friday than a few shows over the last few weeks, including Riverdale this past week. I know a fifth season is unlikely because of the last few years but it's like I said, I'll settle for a finale written as the series finale and the CW looking like idiots- they explain their network's bad ratings average. You think that Klaus and Marcel will harm each other? I think this episode will prove to Marcel and Klaus that they still care about each other. Rating are going pretty steady and actors are promoting KC, the biggest attraction for the show right now, so we might be in some surprise. I personally hope not coz they dont really have material. MN said that finale is game changer. I am weary in finding out what it could be apart from obvious the school, x-men version for witches, vampires and werewolves. Mikaelson family need to have a closure now. Enough has happened and it is time to tie this all up with a pretty bow.
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Post by Allison on Apr 11, 2017 4:59:30 GMT
The Originals- 4.05 I Hear You Knocking DARK MAGIC – After being marked by The Hollow’s dark magic, both Klaus and Marcel experience the symptoms of a malevolent haunting, forcing the two adversaries on a violent collision course. Meanwhile, Hayley and Elijah head out to speak with Mary after Hayley uncovers a mysterious link between the dark magic and her former wolf pack. Finally, as an exhausted Freya risks her own life to cure Klaus’ infection, a guilt-ridden Keelin must decide whether to honor her hippocratic oath and help Freya – or flee the Mikaelson’s forever.
I will be disappointed if we end up with only a few episodes where Marcel is reconciled with his family. On the plus side, The Originals maintained its 0.4 rating an stayed at over a million viewers with a 1.08 in overall viewers so we have a ratings pattern, a higher rating on Friday than a few shows over the last few weeks, including Riverdale this past week. I know a fifth season is unlikely because of the last few years but it's like I said, I'll settle for a finale written as the series finale and the CW looking like idiots- they explain their network's bad ratings average. You think that Klaus and Marcel will harm each other? I think this episode will prove to Marcel and Klaus that they still care about each other. Rating are going pretty steady and actors are promoting KC, the biggest attraction for the show right now, so we might be in some surprise. I personally hope not coz they dont really have material. MN said that finale is game changer. I am weary in finding out what it could be apart from obvious the school, x-men version for witches, vampires and werewolves. Mikaelson family need to have a closure now. Enough has happened and it is time to tie this all up with a pretty bow. I have said this before and I will again- at this point in time, Klaroline has no bearing on the ratings. That would impact the crossover episode, maybe and people would be interested in Alaric who was once made into an enhanced Original as well as TVD in general. No ship, save a major one from one of the juggernaut shows not on the CW can cause a noticeable increase. The promotion on any ship has not been particularly heavy at all. The very fact we haven't had a renewal now with what has been a massive improvement on Fridays and on the behalf of The Originals, despite the massive timeslot screw and mid season speaks volumes. It also, as said, shows the CW for exactly what they are. They don't want to renew shows based on a preferred setup, than what will build the network's audience. TVD as a lead-in was bad for every show it came before- that's the major difference; the story, good direction and pace this season don't hurt either. An older Hope is more of a draw card. I think things might stay frosty than a 'we're family and back on the same side, on solid ground'.
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Post by dstormborn on Apr 11, 2017 7:34:53 GMT
So Klaus vs Marcel, we never had that, right? Very original from The Originals ;-). Yeah I noticed the ratings, they are TVD level "good", if I were CBS/WB management I would fire some CW execs for underestimating this show from the beginning. I was afraid nobody wanted to see a Vampire bonding with his daughter but the ratings even improved. TO is keeping the vampire spot until Lost Boys is ready, but CW should think about that. The ratings of their men in tights are dropping TVD style.
ETA, I can't believe Mikael is back.
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Post by Allison on Apr 11, 2017 7:56:53 GMT
What The Originals has and is doing is different in a good way which is what is translating well- ratings wise and from viewers- the CBS/WB management need to get rid of more than just the CEO next time they clean house. The show nailed first season ratings perfectly- and even on the Monday slot managed to raise the bar during the second season. The problem is that any last minute renewal this season eats into whatever contracts are left, which is five or six seasons at most. Any renewal would be a final season at this point so it can't solve the problem the CW has. Nor can Supernatural or some of their semi okay non superhero shows because they're either too weak or they've run too long. The CW have managed themselves into a corner and fixing it requires choices that I don't think they're capable of making.
Name the last vampire show that did what The Originals is doing with Hope. The Originals has a distinct tone and Hope is a part of that. With supernatural shows, there's a habit for kids to become gimmicks- to be honest, the only year they nailed children right in Charmed was Season Six- as long as it's like Hope, who has an actual point rather than existing as a pure plot device, kids can work otherwise they take up screentime.
Edit: Mikael is such a good choice for a ghost/hallucination haunting Klaus and suits the father-son generational thing perfectly and adds a haunting tone to Klaus being made to hunt Marcel which was done to him by his adoptive father...
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Post by dstormborn on Apr 11, 2017 8:20:22 GMT
They did an excellent casting with Hope and I like her story although I hoped for a demonstration of her powers outside of butterfly wings. They did that on Grimm but the writing was inconsistent for Diana. And the kid on Sleepy Hollow had only a minor role. However I never liked Carl (TWD) or Connor (Angel) so I'm glad Hope is working.
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Post by Madamimadam on Apr 11, 2017 13:57:03 GMT
So Klaus vs Marcel, we never had that, right? Very original from The Originals ;-). Yeah I noticed the ratings, they are TVD level "good", if I were CBS/WB management I would fire some CW execs for underestimating this show from the beginning. I was afraid nobody wanted to see a Vampire bonding with his daughter but the ratings even improved.TO is keeping the vampire spot until Lost Boys is ready, but CW should think about that. The ratings of their men in tights are dropping TVD style. ETA, I can't believe Mikael is back. Mikael is not BACK per se. He is haunting Klaus if I am right. Which is excellent. It could lead to further comparison between Marcel and Klaus relationship to Klaus and his relationship and that to Hope. In general I think the idea of Hope being the source of Klaus redemption didnt sit well with many fans. Ironically they are all okay with klaus redeeming himself for a love interest but not for his flesh and blood.
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Post by Madamimadam on Apr 11, 2017 21:02:09 GMT
You think that Klaus and Marcel will harm each other? I think this episode will prove to Marcel and Klaus that they still care about each other. Rating are going pretty steady and actors are promoting KC, the biggest attraction for the show right now, so we might be in some surprise. I personally hope not coz they dont really have material. MN said that finale is game changer. I am weary in finding out what it could be apart from obvious the school, x-men version for witches, vampires and werewolves. Mikaelson family need to have a closure now. Enough has happened and it is time to tie this all up with a pretty bow. I have said this before and I will again- at this point in time, Klaroline has no bearing on the ratings. That would impact the crossover episode, maybe and people would be interested in Alaric who was once made into an enhanced Original as well as TVD in general. No ship, save a major one from one of the juggernaut shows not on the CW can cause a noticeable increase. The promotion on any ship has not been particularly heavy at all. The very fact we haven't had a renewal now with what has been a massive improvement on Fridays and on the behalf of The Originals, despite the massive timeslot screw and mid season speaks volumes. It also, as said, shows the CW for exactly what they are. They don't want to renew shows based on a preferred setup, than what will build the network's audience. TVD as a lead-in was bad for every show it came before- that's the major difference; the story, good direction and pace this season don't hurt either. An older Hope is more of a draw card. I think things might stay frosty than a 'we're family and back on the same side, on solid ground'. I am not keen on the show being renewed on account of the storylines and characters need to get closure on their characters. It is been going on for a long time. They are more or less in the same rut. If they get another season, it will be another similar cycle. Klaus will be the "monster" Elijah will be same douche bag, Rebekah same flaky character making appearance for an episode or two without really getting a story, Hayley and Elijah have same angst over their love story. Enough! I am still not sold on KC not having any impact on the renewal. Well I will not be surprised if Mikaelson put their "grievances" aside presently. This is their life story. Marcel, I think will eventually have peace with Klaus, a kind of peace he has been wanting since ....
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Post by dstormborn on Apr 12, 2017 8:29:37 GMT
I am not keen on the show being renewed on account of the storylines and characters need to get closure on their characters. It is been going on for a long time. They are more or less in the same rut. If they get another season, it will be another similar cycle. Klaus will be the "monster" Elijah will be same douche bag, Rebekah same flaky character making appearance for an episode or two without really getting a story, Hayley and Elijah have same angst over their love story. Enough! I am still not sold on KC not having any impact on the renewal. Well I will not be surprised if Mikaelson put their "grievances" aside presently. This is their life story. Marcel, I think will eventually have peace with Klaus, a kind of peace he has been wanting since .... The Buffy spinoff Angel lasted 5 seasons and the last season was actually better with an open ending. So I'd rather the show goes on, so many other shows I liked ended (TVD, Person of Interest), are in danger (iZombie) or are declining in quality (Homeland, Supergirl).
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Post by Madamimadam on Apr 12, 2017 14:59:32 GMT
I am not keen on the show being renewed on account of the storylines and characters need to get closure on their characters. It is been going on for a long time. They are more or less in the same rut. If they get another season, it will be another similar cycle. Klaus will be the "monster" Elijah will be same douche bag, Rebekah same flaky character making appearance for an episode or two without really getting a story, Hayley and Elijah have same angst over their love story. Enough! I am still not sold on KC not having any impact on the renewal. Well I will not be surprised if Mikaelson put their "grievances" aside presently. This is their life story. Marcel, I think will eventually have peace with Klaus, a kind of peace he has been wanting since .... The Buffy spinoff Angel lasted 5 seasons and the last season was actually better with an open ending. So I'd rather the show goes on, so many other shows I liked ended (TVD, Person of Interest), are in danger (iZombie) or are declining in quality (Homeland, Supergirl). Angle is another show in which spin off was better than original IMO. I do get why you and others would want the show to continue. The characters are/ were fascinating but I have always been of opinion that a show should end before the fans literally start to pray for it to end. And I am so tired of this Haylijah angst love story and Elijah pouty presence that I cannot endure one more season of it esp knowing that it will not go anywhere. Well I could stop watching but knowing that it is on air, I know myself lol.
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Post by dstormborn on Apr 13, 2017 15:48:09 GMT
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Post by Madamimadam on Apr 13, 2017 16:43:20 GMT
spoiler girl said freya will give the weapon to klaus. since marcel is not dead i am kind of hoping those hauntings had the affect i wanted to have. i wouldnt say reckless per se, just a risky theory he wants to test. They dont know the extent of the danger Hollow can be so not really surprising that he wants to test a theory. Also considering who Mikaelson are esp Klaus I am not surprised that he will risk himself esp for his daughter. Saying that I also want Klaus to be careful about his plans because even though a father's first instinct should be to do anything to protect his child but there should be a desire to live for their child too, to see them grow old etc. Which does not seem to be case with Klaus so far and does not seem to be in future (Klaus will risk everything for his daughter as per interviews). I wouldnt be surprised if Elijah upon knowing Klaus's plan takes the matter into his own hands later in the season. Riley is looking prettier by the day. I cannot believe this is the same woman they introduced in 215 (?). She actually looked bordering on middle age in those episodes.
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Post by Madamimadam on Apr 13, 2017 17:15:13 GMT
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Post by moonover on Apr 13, 2017 19:16:48 GMT
I am happy, I was not optimistic we would have many scenes with Hope, but it seems we are getting reasonable amount of scenes with her.
I also love Klaus and Freya scenes, although I doubt they have good "healthy" influence on each other.
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Post by Madamimadam on Apr 13, 2017 19:41:42 GMT
I am happy, I was not optimistic we would have many scenes with Hope, but it seems we are getting reasonable amount of scenes with her. I also love Klaus and Freya scenes, although I doubt they have good "healthy" influence on each other.I think Freya is too much like Elijah. We just had not gotten a chance to see the extent she would go for her family. Whereas Elijah's extend to the select few members of his family, hers extend to the whole Mikealson clan. She will do anything to protect her family. Her behavior is understanding since she has spend 1000 years looking for her family and their unconditional love not to mention the Mikaelson protective genes. Freya giving Klaus the weapon makes sense seeing her psych. I really want to see how Klaus handles it. Regarding Freya treatment to Marcel, She does not see Marcel as Mikaelson, for which I will give her benefit of doubt since she had only known him as "part of family" since a year or so. Whereas I have a theory in regard to Elijah's behavior towards Marcel: Even though I think Elijah does not REALLY see Marcel as family, it is possible that he sees him as family but he also sees him as threat to the rest of his family too, RE Elijah did try to kill Klaus, his flesh and blood, for "killing" his other siblings. In real life too, most of the devoted family members stick to each other hence it makes sense for Mikaelson family to do so too. It is understandable that in such families people will do anything to protect their family members but does that make it right? Where do you draw the line? This family apparently does not have any line! This situation is sucky coz it is understandable but we also know that it is not RIGHT!Hayley said in last episode that they have to do better but i wonder if she will do better if it is Hope who is in danger and she has to choose her life or a friend's? of course it is going to be her daughter. So I get why Elijah does what he does but then acting like he cares is hypocrite and it just makes everything more cringeworthy than it really is: like him talking about those kids to Vincent when he cruelly let Davina die in s3 OR was going to let those kids die at end of s3.
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