The Originals 4x04 "Keepers of the House" Discussion Thread

Vicious cycle!!
Finally we are getting Klope scenes after waiting for three seasons. I guess they will be waiting in the compound. 
I have a feeling Elijah is going to be more pain this coming episode. 
Glad to see Hayley can put her pride/ fear aside to got to Marcel for help but really, how can she face him after standing by the person who killed him? I guess for her daughter she will get over her guilt too. 
Any episode involving Vincent is going to be great. I wonder what that unlikely new threat is going to be? I dont believe that "darkness" will reveal itself so soon but then again MN did say taht things will move very fast once they get to NOLA. 

This is getting cooler by the episode . 

That is sneak peek 2. 1 was about Freya and wolf girl bonding www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOuhqHUr98A. I#m sensing an new couple.
Since I liked the Klope scene a lot in the last episode I agree with Klaus staying back for once. One pouting or brooding brother is normal for CW Mikaelsons, Salvatores or Winchesters.
Hayley in action hopefully means more 4x1 wolf fights. 
Elijah getting his arse kicked would be redundant but I'm disappointed getting laid didn't do the trick. He/we need more of that.

So I watched the episode and it was great. 

Spoilers ahead

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Sadly Kinney died. I didnt think about that. And Klaus killed him LOL. He is not back in the city half a day and he already killed Kinney someone whom he spared for Cami's sake once. But he was going to kill Klaus's son so yeah he had to go. Sorry Kinney. He and Cami should really have left. 

Kinney was willing to sacrifice those kids, really? I dont think he was possessed. I think he was just following him coz Hollow promised him city clear of evil. Something about that sacrificing the kids reminded me of how the witches wanted the kids to be sacrificed for the power. 

Elijah is so trigger happy. He was willing to torture Kinney without giving Vincent any chance to find a solution. The same thing he did to Marcel. He does not really learn, does he? AND he was willing to kill those kids. WOW douche bag!!! I am so glad that Hayley called him out at the end of the episode. She looked so disappointed in him. I am hoping that this is the start of Hayley starting to see real Elijah. Loved how Vincent called him out when he was on and on about children dying LOL. I hope Elijah gets more of moral lessons in future. I lol when Elijah talked about children in danger/ dying, cannot recall. Really? Mr high and almighty. He is really becoming unbearable. 

Even though it was long time coming "I want you to do better" "we should stop putting our family life ahead of other people" but i felt as if Hayley's new conscious came out of blue. She was fine with it five years ago. She even did it herself during those five years so what happened now? I suspect "you are good" being played here. This season is going to play "Hayley is good". 

Klaus and Hope scenes were really insightful. Klaus saying that love should be reserved for people instead of places was very nice touch. Hope saw the other kids after Klaus took off her bracelet. Is that significance? Was she using magic or someone using it on her while she was unconscious. 

Klaus and Marcel still care about each other. But Elijah and Marcel are really weary. Elijah's stance when he shared screen with Marcel was very hostile. 

Hollow reminded me of Charmed. JP keeps taking ideas from other shows. Anyway so Hollow has gone in Marcel and Klaus. How did it get in Marcel? he had his eyes closed. Why the heck would Klaus look into the hollow when Hope warned him and he himself warned Marcel? 

Keelin and Freya is getting Stockholm syndrome. Came out of blue. It is very clear Freya is leaning towards Keelin who has not shown anything yet. She gave Keelin the moonlight ring after some manipulation Good for her. 

How can Lara say that city does not belong to vampires? Vampires had been living in the city since 1914 and Mikaelson before that so how is the city limited to just werewolves and witches? I am glad she called out Hayley for ditching all of them. I hope Hayley just does not take charge of the pack now that they are back and Elijah is safe! she does not deserve the pack after ditching them. 

Vincent is the best and noble character right now. 

I am very disappointed that Marcel didnt take Hayley into task for standing with Elijah. But I think Hayley already feels that Elijah was at wrong. She even rolled her eyes when Elijah warned her about Marcel. She took him to task at the end of the episode. She did sound a bit apologetic when she was talking to Marcel in the end. I just wish Marcel would have said something. 

Marcel really loves Hope and he would never harm her. 

Marcel and Sophia have chemistry. I will give them that. It seems Sophia does not like Vincent though. 

So my grievance, I remember they cut a scene in s1 when Klaus was out fighting to save Hayley from witches curse. That would have been great for Hayley to know that Klaus cared about her and the baby but they cut it--- contrived angst between K and H. In this episode Klaus told Hope that her mom and UNCLE ELIJAH were finding a solution. Why was it important for Hope to find out that uncle Elijah is fighting for her but not for Hayley to find out that father of her child cared? This show went to lengths to create contrived problems between Klaus and Hayley. 

JOMO did a good job and I will give him props for clothing department too. Carina tweeted that he was very particular about them LOL

Theory:

I think Elijah will be possessed by Hollow and that will lead to something bad for Elijah. Vincent foreshadowed that Hollow if posses  you it will feed on the darkness within you when he was talking to Elijah. I am not sure if Elijah will be able to fight that darkness if Hollow possess him. 

I don't think Elijah will be possessed. Seems more like Klaus and Marcel, based on this ep and the promo for next week.


It seems like both Elijah and Freya are on track to learn a lesson about doing terrible things in the name of family. They both seemed to regret their words or actions by the end of this ep. They are ruthless, and while sometimes that's not a bad thing, they often don't try to find less extreme methods first, and that's part of why people don't like them.


But I will say I liked Marcel saying out loud that he's no threat to Hope. We all knew it, but it was still a nice moment.

Hayley's moral compass comes and goes as per her requirement. I am not completely sold on it. She has done as many terrible things as anyone else on this show. Her owing up to her faults def came out of blue. Remember she was willing to do anything to find about her parents in TVD too. She killed those witches in s2. She killed those werewolves in s3. She killed witches again in s3 but she has not yet owned up to all of those things. 

Yeah I am glad his moral compass is being dealt here. 

But I have a feeling that this moral compass is only dealt to produce another angst for Haylijah. 


marcel has his faults. He can be selfish too but IMO he will always be better ruler than Klaus OR Elijah esp considering they have much more experience than him. I do agree with bold part. 





I meant later in the season. Obviously right now it is Klaus and Marcel but Klaus will be cured as per synopsis of e5/e6. It is possible that they both are not really cleansed till the end of season. 





That was such a great moment. 
He even told that to Klaus in woods. He told him that he would never have harmed his daughter (cannot recall the actual wordings). 







Of course there are differences but the concept is the same. It is not just similar name, it is all about power and corruption by Hollow IIRC. Look what the Hollow did to Kinney. He was willing to get those kids sacrificed. We will see what will happen to Klaus and Marcel in next episode. Hollow is supposed to be evil if I understood the interviews at all. The concept of Hollow is not prior story-building. They incorporated the prior story into the new story. Do you really think that when they were dwelling on Eva story about child kidnapping, they had plans for story line for s4? I dont think so. 
Blue light concept was interesting. It also reminds me of s4 poster, that has blue light featured in it too. 


If Ancestors are behind the Hollow, werewolves are in ally with them too, it seems?

Oh another question; Vincent siad that if Elijah died, the link will be broken or something like that. Hayley "killed" him with normal stake. But Elijah cannot die with normal stake. Remind me again what is the affect of normal stake on an Original...

Hayley and Vincet have been great so far. PT acting has improved so much. Yousaf is great too.





Two vampires watch a girl kill herself and don't heal her for further interrogation?

They were not focused on her at that moment. Hayley was looking at Marcel who was looking somewhere else. I was actually surprised that she died very quickly. Aren't werewolves supposed to heal themselves. Probably the injury in the neck was at the spot where she lost too much blood too quickly? 

I dont have a good feel for Sophia too. But I am looking forward to the tango. I am not sure how JOMO will look doing tango. For some reason I cannot see him as a dance LOL. As per spoilers she and Klaus have a history. Knowing who Klaus is, guess what is that LOL?