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Post by Madamimadam on Jul 13, 2018 17:55:09 GMT
If Elijah dies instead of Klaus and Klaus gets to live somewhere in Europe with Caroline, then what would be the point of this season? The season started with Klaus being a deadbeat dad and it will end with him being a deadbeat dad. The only redemption he should have is dying for the sake of his daughter. Granted, it wouldn't be a full redemption, but it would bring his character to a complete circle. I know fans want him to be happy with Caroline, but the ending that I keep hearing about makes me feel like we're right back where we started. Hope is in school, Klaus is a deadbeat and the happy Originals are with their SOs. Regarding the episode: I was reading reddit and someone said that the first born curse may have already started. Hayley, Ivy and possibly Josh are first born. So Freya might be in danger there. Davina too. Re: Klaus dying for the sake of his daughter Its been so long I have seen previous seasons that I have forgotten small details but didnt he (KLaus) sacrificed himself for Hope at then end of season 2 with Dahlia and dagger (something like that happened, right?). His sacrifice at the end of s3 was purely for Elijah IIRC. Would he have given in to imprisonment of Marcel if Elijah was not on the verge of death? Would he have done for Rebekah or Kol? Re: Deadbeat dad Yes he has been and still is, will continue to do so. He has changed but that change is minuscular. There was a huge potential and I could see it coming with help from Hayley and somewhat Elijah until he went overboard coz his precious Elijah was not there to "help" him get back on track. I think and I maybe cynical but I think that the only scenario in which Klaus can be a good and present dad to Hope is when there is mayhem and he is "helping" her cope with it by encouraging her craziness/ killing etc. Now again I have not watched the current season but i don't see him NOT encouraging her to let go of her furry so my theory is all just a theory. If I understood he encouraged her to take her anger on him by throwing him around the room? Is that what happened? At this point with all of Klaus history the only reason Klaus will not die is because of JP fantasy ship KC. I think that Klaus will ask Caroline to come with him one more time OR maybe an indication of them having a HEA together when they meet again in next episode (I saw pics of them together) but first Caroline will let him walk away from him one final time (maybe coz of her daughter) but then she will follow him AFTER everything falls and wraps up. I think the series will end with Caroline going after Klaus. Of course it will not be clearcut endgame but closest to what we can get. Maybe there will be another letter from her to him telling him that she will join him because I am pretty sure she will not be in the finale in person. Strange but I really hope that Elijah and Hayley get their HEA in the afterlife. yes I did say that. I am so fed-up of seeing Elijah and Hayley suffering/ moaning for what they CANNOT have in real life. Their pull and tug from the start of this series has gotten ridiculous. I mean what is the point of a relationship if you cannot live it?! All this angst has gotten really stupid by now, actually has been for a while. After everything they deserve happiness in afterlife even though I still hate Elijah and his real personality. Ooo it would be nice to see Cami, Josh, Aiden, Hayley, Elijah (if he dies) in the afterlife, together laughing or something. too cheesy ?! yeah maybe but oh well.... Re for the first born curse: Cami was the first born too, right? Oh I read that leah was supposed to make a guest appearance this season. Has she? |
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Post by daydreamer on Jul 14, 2018 0:29:52 GMT
Jul 13, 2018 12:37:55 GMT tissuepaper said: If Elijah dies instead of Klaus and Klaus gets to live somewhere in Europe with Caroline, then what would be the point of this season? The season started with Klaus being a deadbeat dad and it will end with him being a deadbeat dad. The only redemption he should have is dying for the sake of his daughter. Granted, it wouldn't be a full redemption, but it would bring his character to a complete circle. I think they're going to come up with some excuse/reason to explain why Klaus won't be seen/involved with Hope. One theory (not mine) is that Klaus fakes his death in order to protect Hope. Or maybe it's Hope who wants to return to school - where it's somewhat normal - and Klaus lets her go. And in Legacies, they'll make a point of showing the occasional letter from him or reference to him, indicating that while he's not onscreen, he is there. But that comes under fire when Hope gets into some real danger, because of course Klaus would come running...so I don't know how they're going to explain it. Hopefully it won't be anything too eyerolling inducing. I'm more curious how they're going to explain Caroline's absence. Caroline loves her daughters - and that's her freaking school! No way would she give her daughters up just to run off with Klaus. The only theory I have right now is that Caroline realizes she has to leave MF - she's forever 17 and she's supposed to be pushing forty. I think (hope) that Caroline is going to start a sister school somewhere. Maybe or maybe not in NOLA. But she realizes Klaus needs a hobby - so she gets him to start recruiting/rescuing kids that need a supernatural school. It's going to be an open-ending endgame. One that you can interpret any way you want. I'm not convinced that the Mikaelsons are going to go off into the sunset with their SOs. Is Marcel a first-born? I'm actually really starting to think they're going to kill him off. With this past episode, he realizes that Rebekah is right: Kingdoms fall every day. None if it means anything without family. And if Marcel actually sacrifices himself for Rebekah specifically, I will finally say, "Huh. I guess he really did love her, after all." Even before I heard about the first-born curse/premonition, I was already betting that Freya would be the Mikaelson to die. She's the most vulnerable. And she loves her family. And she knows she loves her family; it's why she broke up with Keelin. And now, despite loving Keelin as much as she does, despite marrying her - when push comes to shove, Freya will do all she can to protect/save her family. Davina and Kol will be fine. They're just not important enough anymore. If they ever even were. And technically, Davina's already died, so IDK if that first-born curse/premonition even applies. So I think: Rebekah will be alone because Marcel will die. Elijah will be alone because he doesn't die. Keelin will be alone because Freya dies. Klaus will technically be alone because of the open-ended Klaroline. But they will be together: Always and forever. |
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Post by daydreamer on Jul 14, 2018 0:32:24 GMT
Re: Hayley and the Mikaelsons being her family - I do think she was kinda stuck with them at first, but when they were cursed/in stasis, she could have just left them there indefinitely. She had considered them a danger to Hope previously, and this was a perfect chance to keep them away. But by then she was considering them family. If not her own by blood, then adopted because of Hope. Also, fairly sure after Jackson died she went back to Marshall, and calling herself Mikaelson was just a reminder that she does consider herself part of the family. I do hope that if we do see a HEA for Hayley it's a reunion with her parents/family/Jackson/Mary (did she die? I feel like she was mentioned as dead this season). People who died to protect her and loved her dearly. Mary did die. There was a letter Hayley wrote to Klaus after he abandoned them, saying that instead of enjoying some party the wolves were throwing, Hope crawled into bed with Mary to comfort her as she was dying. Something like that. |
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Post by daydreamer on Jul 14, 2018 0:39:20 GMT
Re: Deadbeat dad Yes he has been and still is, will continue to do so. He has changed but that change is minuscular. There was a huge potential and I could see it coming with help from Hayley and somewhat Elijah until he went overboard coz his precious Elijah was not there to "help" him get back on track. I think and I maybe cynical but I think that the only scenario in which Klaus can be a good and present dad to Hope is when there is mayhem and he is "helping" her cope with it by encouraging her craziness/ killing etc. Now again I have not watched the current season but i don't see him NOT encouraging her to let go of her furry so my theory is all just a theory. If I understood he encouraged her to take her anger on him by throwing him around the room? Is that what happened?
Yes. And when that didn't work, he encouraged her to torture and then kill. Which she did.
She's in the final two episodes.
Cami and Sean were twins. We don't know who the first born was.
Yes, Cami is supposed to appear in the final.
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