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Post by Allison on Jun 10, 2018 11:28:56 GMT
The Originals- 5.08 'The Kindness of Strangers' Discussion Thread
CHAMBRE DE CHASSE — As pressing matters rage on in New Orleans, the Mikaelson siblings find themselves forced to set aside their differences and work together to escape a "chambre de chasse."
And from here on out, we hopefully get as much of the characters as we need although I'll understand any sparing use as the CW doesn't seem to have left the show much funding and every last bit is being used- I'd rather the last episode be jam packed than using it up six episodes out. I mean, I think they should have axed Josh but for all we know, the CW just would have taken that extra paycheck back.
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Post by AJ on Jun 11, 2018 15:34:16 GMT
So ... are Kol and Bex in NOLA for this (thereby finishing off the signs and bringing the death of the firstborns), or are they somehow entering this chambre from a remote location? Because that seems really unlikely.
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Post by AJ on Jun 14, 2018 3:08:44 GMT
I hope we get an explanation for why Hope suddenly can take in the power of the Hollow and still be herself.
Assuming Kol has made his last appearance. Probably Bex too. Maybe a (very) brief appearance in the finale, but this show hasn't been good about utilizing all members of the Mikaelson family. Seems we finally got closure on the Marcel/Bex relationship. I salute the whatever-their-ship-name-was as it sinks into the sea. I'm just glad I didn't bet money on Elijah/Antoinette lasting once his memories were back.
I'm thinking at this point we won't see much of side characters (Declan, Josh, and probably Ivy). We have 4 episodes left to wrap up the Hollow/Nazi vampires/broken family dynamics. I don't want to blow it on stupid.
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Post by moonover on Jun 14, 2018 10:55:13 GMT
I think Declans story is jet to be told, and they have sadly used so much time on Ivy there must be more to it, and I fear Antoinette is not over yet  I wish the focus of this season had been more about TheOriginals like this episode was. This last season has been to much about side characters that I don't give a rat about. |
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Post by Allison on Jun 14, 2018 14:05:13 GMT
I loved the dynamics focusing on the siblings and everything with Elijah- Kol was spot on and the fact he continues to have issues with Elijah and Freya was good, Davina being alive again doesn't change anything and you could tell he was upset on Hope's behalf... it is tragic but Elijah has managed to hurt both Marcel and Hope in ways that can't be undone and there's a very bitter irony that the children that made Klaus grow as a person, both associate Elijah as betrayal and death. The end of the episode had me in tears because it was really where it was real, Hayley's dead and it hit home exactly what she was for the series- the little wolf who had no family found it and fought long and hard for them.
Hayley, in a strange way, echoed book Elena's death- dying to save the ones she loved by burning in sunlight and bringing them back together... it's why her death meant more in this episode than before. I couldn't hate Elijah- I just had this profound sense of pity for him.
I don't mind Declan since he can lead back to the human faction and the old thread of Cami and Father Kieran, Ivy works well as synergy with Vincent but Josh, has been more of a 'how he can screw this up' this season than anything else.
I don't think Hope's taken in the Hollow's power all too well and judging from next week's promo, controlling it notwithstanding, all that power in a grieving teenager who blames her uncle for her mother's death- like I said, Marcel and Hope are ultimately very tragic- they love their father/made amends but everything Elijah does to protect his family ended up hurting them the most- who redeems the monster behind the red door? They shouldn't care about Elijah's reasons.
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Post by tissuepaper on Jun 14, 2018 18:45:40 GMT
I just read that in TVD, Stefan did something horrible after not acting like himself and in the end he sacrificed himself for his brother.
Why is the Originals following the same thread, since it seems like Elijah is going to be doing the same thing after he got his memories back?
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Post by AJ on Jun 14, 2018 18:49:12 GMT
Because recycling plot points is what CW/Plec does.
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Post by M on Jun 14, 2018 20:40:40 GMT
I just read that in TVD, Stefan did something horrible after not acting like himself and in the end he sacrificed himself for his brother. Why is the Originals following the same thread, since it seems like Elijah is going to be doing the same thing after he got his memories back? Elijah will "sacrifive" himself because of his man pains and self pity and guilt. And we will finally get haylijah hea in afterlife. And recycling is what julie plec lives as far as I have seen her. I have been saying this for a long time now. E Wii sacrifice himself for k "Good" brother dying for " evil" one.. Then again I could be wrong lol |
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Post by tissuepaper on Jun 15, 2018 1:58:00 GMT
Because recycling plot points is what CW/Plec does. But that storyline just happened.  I just read that in TVD, Stefan did something horrible after not acting like himself and in the end he sacrificed himself for his brother. Why is the Originals following the same thread, since it seems like Elijah is going to be doing the same thing after he got his memories back? Elijah will "sacrifive" himself because of his man pains and self pity and guilt. And we will finally get haylijah hea in afterlife. And recycling is what julie plec lives as far as I have seen her. I have been saying this for a long time now. E Wii sacrifice himself for k "Good" brother dying for " evil" one.. Then again I could be wrong lol I really hope we don't get a haylijah ending. She dumped him for a reason and he was part of the reason why she died. She may forgive him, but I don't want them to be together after all that. What kind of message does that send?
They broke them up to send a message about abuse, so why bring them back together. I'd like to see them as friends, but not together in the afterlife. |
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Post by Allison on Jun 15, 2018 2:51:23 GMT
I just read that in TVD, Stefan did something horrible after not acting like himself and in the end he sacrificed himself for his brother. Why is the Originals following the same thread, since it seems like Elijah is going to be doing the same thing after he got his memories back? Stefan was one of those people- I rank Elijah higher since he isn't as self absorbed, who think they're the victim when what they've done hurts others- it wasn't the first time he'd flipped his humanity switch to escape feeling badly, but it finally bit him hard. Stefan's death came probably because of Kevin Williamson's involvement, since he had a thing for the morose in the early seasons... I think had he not come back, the final season wouldn't have been quite so 'character cull' heavy... especially with characters like Sarah Salvatore- there are times a final season should be done as it has become and not bring back someone just as a name. With Elijah, it's always been that he inflicts collateral damage by the truckload in the name of saving Klaus and his family and this now includes both Hope and Marcel... he couldn't exhibit self control so he forewent his memories which was a mistake. The Vampire Diaries in the final season, it was nice and all, wrapped things up well enough but a big issue was Kevin Williamson- the show had changed and evolved and the final season depended more on nostalgia whereas The Originals has felt like the story, characters and plotline are progressing forward instead of backwards. Elijah, can go either way- it depends on him being able to be a healthier individual for his family since it's definitely shaping up like the tragedies will help them finally end their self-destructive ways and evolve to being more of an eternal, light version of their vow- I mean, this season- Esther's words from 3x15 "All My Children" of TVD: ... these words have only applied completely to Elijah- Klaus, ironically enough was committing monstrous deeds because of what happened with his daughter- just like Mikael and a shade like Esther, which is why I think Kol, Rebekah and even Klaus are probably safe to the series end. I think they aren't going for the destruction of the family either, since it would undermine what Hayley died for and the theme of it, they're carrying onward. I think there were definite contractual issues this season because of the way the main actors were able to audition last season for new roles so any deaths will likely be as a result of not getting to use an actor again in Legacies, or on actor request as opposed to story reasons. |
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I wish the focus of this season had been more about TheOriginals like this episode was. This last season has been to much about side characters that I don't give a rat about.
