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Post by tissuepaper on May 10, 2018 14:27:48 GMT
They're currently working on a spin off series about Hope and that's all well and good, but my question is two folds. - What do you think will happen on the series?
- What did you want from a Hope spinoff
For me, I think the Hope spinoff is meant to appeal to the teenage crowd like TVDs. It may have its darker moments, considering who Hope's family are, but I think it will be reminiscent to TVD more than TO. What I would have liked is if it was a series based off of kid hope, because I kind of feel like the show would have been a lot darker. The show wouldn't last long, but kid Hope dealing with dangerous things would have more of a college age/adult vibe to it if they did it properly. The only problem with this idea is that kids on shows never do well...
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Post by AJ on May 10, 2018 22:21:48 GMT
Honestly, I don't plan to watch a Hope spinoff. It feels like The Originals is scraping the barrel already, and teenage Hope just isn't compelling to me. I don't find her likeable or relatable at all.
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Post by daydreamer on May 11, 2018 1:43:45 GMT
I don't plan to watch.
My personal opinion is that the spin-off only has a chance of success if they market it towards a new, younger crowd. But we all know that CW isn't the best when it comes to marketing their shows.
I don't think it will be successful. Viewers want to see the Mikaelsons. And the spin-off will only feature Hope and maybe some guest appearances every once in a while from Rebekah. And to be honest, from what I've seen and heard, teenage Hope isn't a break-out success. This is what happens when you make your character ultra-powerful: she's some weird tri-bred who's THE most powerful witch in the world, but can sire hybrids; has the wolf gene and vampire blood - it just doesn't make sense to me.
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Post by daydreamer on May 11, 2018 1:46:43 GMT
What I would have liked is if it was a series based off of kid hope, because I kind of feel like the show would have been a lot darker. The show wouldn't last long, but kid Hope dealing with dangerous things would have more of a college age/adult vibe to it if they did it properly. The only problem with this idea is that kids on shows never do well...Everyone - everyone in and out of the industry knows this. And yet their spinoff kicked off with a miracle baby and revolved around the baby, the 7-year old, or teen Hope. WHY?!??! I'm so bitter about this. I'm so pissed they started off with the baby SL. I'm so pissed they went with a baby SL in the first place.
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Post by Allison on May 11, 2018 4:34:21 GMT
What I would have liked is if it was a series based off of kid hope, because I kind of feel like the show would have been a lot darker. The show wouldn't last long, but kid Hope dealing with dangerous things would have more of a college age/adult vibe to it if they did it properly. The only problem with this idea is that kids on shows never do well...Everyone - everyone in and out of the industry knows this. And yet their spinoff kicked off with a miracle baby and revolved around the baby, the 7-year old, or teen Hope. WHY?!??! I'm so bitter about this. I'm so pissed they started off with the baby SL. I'm so pissed they went with a baby SL in the first place. I'm bitter that there's a 'kids have cooties' vibe with networks when it comes to shows. There's no problem that they started with the baby because Hope was always a supporting element of the show than its main pull- even now she is just a supporting element like New Orleans for example, a part of the universe and what the spinoff does or does not do will be on that. It has to do with an industry wide issue more than children, and spans across movies and video games- is there's a narrow perspective on what formulas work and very few outside that box get made- statistically television shows with kids in them as a supporting element are few and far in between, especially in genre shows. I'm not saying every show needs a damned kid in it- I'm saying there's no reason you can't have a dark show regardless of a child's or whatever presence and they did the right thing by not chickening out and making The Originals yet another retread and knockoff of what's come before. The Originals worked- it suffered extensive network sabotage and a timeslot game of musical chairs but Hope's influence in the series was neutral at worst possibility. I don't know if a Hope spinoff will work and it might be a moot debate anyway.
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Post by tissuepaper on May 11, 2018 21:40:27 GMT
It seems we all have similar feelings about the spinoff. If they make it like TVD, it may be successful, but I don't think it will last long. If they up the creepiness factor and have a show about Hope who slowly goes down the path towards being a super villain, that might be fun. I don't want a show about teenage romance and angst. I'd rather Hope be about something more....just like how the Originals was meant to be about something more.
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Post by AJ on May 11, 2018 23:01:31 GMT
News about the Hope spinoffLooks like it's a go for the spinoff. And the Charmed reboot as well. That rumbling sound you hear in the distance is me groaning in disgust. "Legacies", as the Hope spinoff will be called, will focus on supernatural students at the Salvatore School.
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Post by tissuepaper on May 11, 2018 23:23:10 GMT
News about the Hope spinoffLooks like it's a go for the spinoff. And the Charmed reboot as well. That rumbling sound you hear in the distance is me groaning in disgust. "Legacies", as the Hope spinoff will be called, will focus on supernatural students at the Salvatore School. ...I'm more upset about the Charmed reboot more than anything. I feel like anything they do will be bad.
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Post by Allison on May 11, 2018 23:59:16 GMT
News about the Hope spinoffLooks like it's a go for the spinoff. And the Charmed reboot as well. That rumbling sound you hear in the distance is me groaning in disgust. "Legacies", as the Hope spinoff will be called, will focus on supernatural students at the Salvatore School. ...I'm more upset about the Charmed reboot more than anything. I feel like anything they do will be bad. Roswell, I'm excited for, Legacies sounds okay and better that it's centered more around what you do with the hand dealt with multiple characters and lineage than a pure Hope spinoff- Charmed is completely redundant- eight seasons and the description made me sick- what the frell are they thinking? It's the CW though so I shouldn't be shocked. I'm dealing with this morning's cancellation news on Lucifer...I watch the episodes when they crop up on Netflix. I hope the Roswell, New Mexico and Legacies are going to be episode per week on Netflix for Australian viewers, it'd make things easier for me.
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Post by daydreamer on May 12, 2018 1:28:43 GMT
I honestly don't get it.
I don't get how Plec continues to get work when she constantly runs shows into the ground. I don't get how fans continue to trust in her storytelling ability.
I'm not bitter or angry or disappointed about the spin-off - I am simply bewildered. I will say I actually do like the title "Legacies," and if it focuses on other offspring of notorious supernatural families, that's cool. But it also sounds like a Disney Descendants rip-off.
Either way, I won't be watching. Done done done with the CW. And if FOX doesn't renew LA to Vegas, I'm done with FOX too. I'm done watching/getting invested in network dramas. I'll still watch the ocassional comedy. But for my dramas, I'll focus on Netflix, Hulu and Prime.
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Post by Allison on May 12, 2018 2:37:36 GMT
I honestly don't get it. I don't get how Plec continues to get work when she constantly runs shows into the ground. I don't get how fans continue to trust in her storytelling ability. I'm not bitter or angry or disappointed about the spin-off - I am simply bewildered. I will say I actually do like the title "Legacies," and if it focuses on other offspring of notorious supernatural families, that's cool. But it also sounds like a Disney Descendants rip-off. Either way, I won't be watching. Done done done with the CW. And if FOX doesn't renew LA to Vegas, I'm done with FOX too. I'm done watching/getting invested in network dramas. I'll still watch the ocassional comedy. But for my dramas, I'll focus on Netflix, Hulu and Prime. While personal taste comes into it, I'll agree we disagree and I won't pretend I agree with some of the TVD choices or to have watched Containment- The Tomorrow People was solid as was The Originals- her shows remind me of the character and plot complexity of 90s shows- I wouldn't watch a show based on her name, it just happens to occur with concepts I'm interested in. And the CW employs far worse showrunners than her, in my opinion Disney Descendants carries on from Sky High- the concept of a future generation born of powers deciding their own destinies in a trope, it's what's done with it that makes it good or bad, an original take or cheap knockoff. I'm a science fiction fan first and foremost and I refuse to watch shows running on the SyFy channel- they cancel all their good science fiction shows and ran the Stargate franchise into the ground, or any of the major networks because they don't let good science fiction shows survive. The CW is pathetically the best and brightest hope of a science fiction show succeeding and this is the successor to a network that cancelled the original Roswell TV series- FOX canned Firefly after cancelling Dark Angel for it- both shows should have survived and Dark Angel was a powerhouse they shafted to Fridays for political reasons post 9/11- created by James Cameron and its leads were Jessica Alba and Michael Weatherly who showed astonishing range and talent back then...networks are generally short sighted and opportunistic which is why they are suffering decaying viewership to streaming services. It's not because we're more into different technology with our viewing habits, it's because people are fed up getting told they should like a neverending cancellations and procedurals and dimwitted pseudo intellectual dramas and comedies.
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Post by tissuepaper on May 30, 2018 22:17:43 GMT
I just thought of something. As of now, we know that Alric and Hope will definitely be in Legacies, but wouldn't it be funny if Josh somehow makes it in too?
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Post by Allison on May 31, 2018 13:25:04 GMT
I just thought of something. As of now, we know that Alric and Hope will definitely be in Legacies, but wouldn't it be funny if Josh somehow makes it in too? Frell, please no...'goes off crying at the mere thought'.
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Post by daydreamer on Jun 1, 2018 23:09:41 GMT
The latest. I just literally cringed. Hope Mikaelson
Damon and Elena's two kids (which doesn't make sense because they're not supernatural...)
Jeremey's kid.
Josie and Lizzie.
And - a relative of Cami's (which also doesn't make any sense unless we soon discover that Declan has a kid?!)
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Post by AJ on Jun 2, 2018 3:59:34 GMT
Someone on Twitter said this cast looks like a bad fanfic. I'm still chuckling.
God, I hope they're not giving the Delena kids a tragic backstory; I got the feeling from the finale that Damon and Elena died young. Maybe they become hunters like their uncle Jeremy? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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