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Post by daydreamer on May 4, 2018 1:04:19 GMT
What is it what vampires and weddings? ! Personally, I'm not a fan. It just doesn't seem realistic to me.  I know, I know, it's a supernatural show, and something normal, like a wedding, is unrealistic to me. But it doesn't fit with my idea of these supernatural creatures, especially ones as old as the Mikaelsons.
But now, we have three potential weddings:
Rebekah and Marcel
Freya and Keelin
Elijah and Antoinette.
I'll be honest, I'm really hoping it's not Rebekah and Marcel - I've never liked them together and IMO, they just don't fit.
I'd be okay with Freya and Keelin, but I'm still thinking it'll be Freya who sacrifices all for her younger siblings.
Longshot, but possible: Elijah and Antoinette. I'm kinda hoping it's these two.
Elijah isn't going to forget that he wanted to be with this woman - that he loved her and that he wanted to marry her. When he gets his memories back, he's not going to forget Antoinette.
I think Antoinette is shady in the sense that her family is manipulating her into betraying Elijah. But overall, she does love him and is a good person.
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Post by AJ on May 4, 2018 2:45:55 GMT
I didn't get the sense that her family was manipulating anything - it could be considered betrayal to not tell him what you know about his past, but she explained why she held back. She seems very loyal and in love. But I'm reluctant to hold any hope, because this show loves to shit on any potential pair other than Elijah/Hayley. Even when/if Hayley dies, I'll still be hesitating to fully commit to this new pair.
Ugh, I'm over Bex and Marcel. Dude literally claimed NYC and told Elijah to scoot. I'm pretty sure that ship is sunk, though. Bex has made her loyalties clear, not that that will stop her from whining about finding love.
I can't get invested in Keelin and Freya this time around, because the writing is on the wall. I don't expect Keelin to make it to the end.
I questioned vampires having weddings when I read Stefan and Caroline would get married. "Until death do us part" takes on a whole new meaning when you're undead and can live potentially forever. I could see a sort of commitment ceremony or something, but a wedding? Especially Kol and Davina, because she's gonna get old and die.
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Post by Allison on May 4, 2018 2:59:56 GMT
It's done in other vampire series, supernatural series with long lived immortals. It's realistic in the sense of commitment and to be honest, for me I think the more daily life and grounded elements, the more real a supernatural show feels, fleshed out. This is where I think Buffy the Vampire Slayer failed, for all the ways it succeeded- Joss Whedon had issues writing those relationships which was why Xander and Anya didn't get married, it was a very regressive move in terms of Xander's character the way it was handled after Whedon decided that. He's not solely responsible but the whole sense of a seperation between what happens in reality and what happens in a supernatural universe, the realism and grit includes the mundane.
Elijah has always been traditional and the fact that marriage is where he went proves there's something of Elijah Mikaelson in there. These characters have also been around for the ages where commitment and marriage had a higher gravity than they do today. I'm not saying people don't love each other as fiercely but it was a time where the expectation was for life with drastic social consequences otherwise and marrying for love was a cherished, beloved dream than a reality and getting that was incredible. It makes more sense for all of those couples than Stefan and Caroline. Were Antoinette's family vampires- it sounded more like they were human and trying to get their loved one to continue a human existence... I think she's exactly as shown and without the idiot ball Stefan and Damon had to their existence... it's clear Klaus left Damon's search to free Katherine/Katerina from the tomb alone because he figured she was punished desiccating and if Damon freed her, he got to torture her personally without any effort as his win-win situation.
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Post by Madamimadam on May 4, 2018 5:16:57 GMT
It's done in other vampire series, supernatural series with long lived immortals. It's realistic in the sense of commitment and to be honest, for me I think the more daily life and grounded elements, the more real a supernatural show feels, fleshed out. This is where I think Buffy the Vampire Slayer failed, for all the ways it succeeded- Joss Whedon had issues writing those relationships which was why Xander and Anya didn't get married, it was a very regressive move in terms of Xander's character the way it was handled after Whedon decided that. He's not solely responsible but the whole sense of a seperation between what happens in reality and what happens in a supernatural universe, the realism and grit includes the mundane. Elijah has always been traditional and the fact that marriage is where he went proves there's something of Elijah Mikaelson in there. These characters have also been around for the ages where commitment and marriage had a higher gravity than they do today. I'm not saying people don't love each other as fiercely but it was a time where the expectation was for life with drastic social consequences otherwise and marrying for love was a cherished, beloved dream than a reality and getting that was incredible. It makes more sense for all of those couples than Stefan and Caroline. Were Antoinette's family vampires- it sounded more like they were human and trying to get their loved one to continue a human existence... I think she's exactly as shown and without the idiot ball Stefan and Damon had to their existence... it's clear Klaus left Damon's search to free Katherine/Katerina from the tomb alone because he figured she was punished desiccating and if Damon freed her, he got to torture her personally without any effort as his win-win situation. |
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Post by Madamimadam on May 4, 2018 5:30:04 GMT
I didn't get the sense that her family was manipulating anything - it could be considered betrayal to not tell him what you know about his past, but she explained why she held back. She seems very loyal and in love. But I'm reluctant to hold any hope, because this show loves to shit on any potential pair other than Elijah/Hayley. Even when/if Hayley dies, I'll still be hesitating to fully commit to this new pair. Ugh, I'm over Bex and Marcel. Dude literally claimed NYC and told Elijah to scoot. I'm pretty sure that ship is sunk, though. Bex has made her loyalties clear, not that that will stop her from whining about finding love. I can't get invested in Keelin and Freya this time around, because the writing is on the wall. I don't expect Keelin to make it to the end. I questioned vampires having weddings when I read Stefan and Caroline would get married. "Until death do us part" takes on a whole new meaning when you're undead and can live potentially forever. I could see a sort of commitment ceremony or something, but a wedding? Especially Kol and Davina, because she's gonna get old and die. I have not seen the episode but read a few tweets which are predicting that Elijah will die at the end and s3 sort of confirmed it?! Did you get the impression? Bold part is the reason, I think Elijah will die in the end. My prediction: He will sacrifice himself for Klaus. As for him and his fiance, of course it will all go to shit when Elijah is back to his pompous ass Elijah Mikaelson, the one we have been familiar with since s1. Maybe because of the guilt for not being able to save Hayley or some other reason. Does this memory-free Elijah remember his love for Hayley? I read somewhere that he remembers everyone. Its only his devotion that is changed which kind of makes sense since Marcel made him forget his "Always and forever" and not his family, right? I like to think that Davina and Kol are living in the moment and not worrying about their future. I seem to remember an episode of Supernatural (?) in which this human woman's husband is a vampire or some other supernatural being who doesnt age. While she continues to grow old, he remains same. How are the couping? Well in this particular case he is so young that they pose as mother son in front of public but behind the doors of course.... Was there such an episode? |
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Post by daydreamer on May 4, 2018 14:12:39 GMT
Some are saying that the show/writing is foreshadowing Elijah's death because in5x01, Klaus mentions to Caroline that amnesia-Elijah is somehow worse than him being dead and in 5x03, Elijah himself says, "Elijah Mikaelson is dead." It was more symbolic when he said it, but it could be foreshadowing.
I'm still holding out hope that the main three (Elijah, Klaus, and Rebekah) survive. But we'll see.
Elijah doesn't remember - he learned information. He learned enough to know who he was and who his family is. He heard stories - mostly about their viciousness and the chaos that surrounds them. And he chooses now to stay away. But he doesn't remember the love he has for any of them or his vow. Marcel compelled him to "Let it all go." So he did.
It's pissing me off seeing how many people are angry with Elijah right now. They don't seem to understand that he doesn't remember - he only learned information second-hand.
I think Davina and Kol are doing their best to live in the moment. Personally, I don't think those two worry about anything, much less their future. I'll be curious to see if Davina decides to turn before she gets too old.
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Post by daydreamer on May 4, 2018 14:19:33 GMT
As weird as it is for me to say this, Stefan and Caroline's wedding made sense to me. Caroline is still living her first lifetime, so I think it's 100% natural that she wants all the normal life events: college. Career. Love. Wedding. Kids. It made sense because Stefan was human (and even if he was still a vampire, I think he would have still married her, knowing she was in her first lifetime and that's what she wanted).
As much as I dislike them, it makes sense for Kol and Davina as well, especially if she remains mortal.
There's a expiration date when one is mortal. So it means more - the time you have together, the cherished moments, etc.
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Post by daydreamer on May 4, 2018 14:25:31 GMT
I didn't get the sense that her family was manipulating anything - it could be considered betrayal to not tell him what you know about his past, but she explained why she held back. She seems very loyal and in love. But I'm reluctant to hold any hope, because this show loves to shit on any potential pair other than Elijah/Hayley. Even when/if Hayley dies, I'll still be hesitating to fully commit to this new pair. Ugh, I'm over Bex and Marcel. Dude literally claimed NYC and told Elijah to scoot. I'm pretty sure that ship is sunk, though. Bex has made her loyalties clear, not that that will stop her from whining about finding love. I can't get invested in Keelin and Freya this time around, because the writing is on the wall. I don't expect Keelin to make it to the end. I questioned vampires having weddings when I read Stefan and Caroline would get married. "Until death do us part" takes on a whole new meaning when you're undead and can live potentially forever. I could see a sort of commitment ceremony or something, but a wedding? Especially Kol and Davina, because she's gonna get old and die. Here's what I'm thinking: Elijah isn't going to die. Hayley is. He also loves Antoinette. Are they going to kill off both his loves?!?!? This poor guy.... I think it's going to be Freya, not Keelin, who dies. |
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I know, I know, it's a supernatural show, and something normal, like a wedding, is unrealistic to me. But it doesn't fit with my idea of these supernatural creatures, especially ones as old as the Mikaelsons.
