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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 6, 2017 19:53:39 GMT
At first I USED to think that they broke it because they will kill him and if dies then others will die too esp TVD crowd but NOW I am pretty sure they did it to bring some humility back to him, to break him. In the sense that he acted all full of himself that he had such a huge sire line and they all are his "children", vampires there to serve him, beneath him. He got a big boost out of it. By breaking the sireline he has come back to earth.
If that is not the reason for break HIS sireline and none of others then what is it?
Also I am 80% sure that KLaus will NOT die at the end of series even though sometimes I have my suspicions. So breaking his sire line if they were never going to kill him does not serve any other purpose.
Thoughts?
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Post by AJ on Feb 6, 2017 20:24:18 GMT
Correct me if I've got my timeline wrong, but I think they did the sireline break before TVD announced its final season. I think the gameplan was to break the line so Klaus could be killed without it affecting anyone in Mystic Falls, but then TVD goes on its final season and TO's rating drops enough to only get half a season and is on unstable ground.
But it does put Klaus in a precarious position, with no one required to defend his life so they can keep their own.
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 6, 2017 20:33:19 GMT
Correct me if I've got my timeline wrong, but I think they did the sireline break before TVD announced its final season. I think the gameplan was to break the line so Klaus could be killed without it affecting anyone in Mystic Falls, but then TVD goes on its final season and TO's rating drops enough to only get half a season and is on unstable ground. But it does put Klaus in a precarious position, with no one required to defend his life so they can keep their own. NOt sure about the announcement but I THINK that it was before that announcement. I do think that it was before that three year time jump of TVD though. Correct me if I am wrong. No, I dont think they ever planned to kill Klaus after the development of character they gave him in season 3. But like i said earlier I still get doubts sometimes  . DId they think that TO will end before TVD? ONly in that scenario them breaking the sireline to protect TVD people makes sense. We have been hearing since last year that TVD is coming to an end. There were even rumors that season 7 will be last but then no. We didnt hear about TO getting cancelled or getting last season till after season 3 ended so the question is did JP has some inner intuition? Precarious and vulnerable which KLaus was never before. I mean yes he has deep rooted problems but that never caused problem with him acting like "GOD" to all his "children" And since all these season were a journey of him becoming a better person for his kid(s), humility is another trait that he needed to learn which he did after he lost his sireline. |
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Post by tissuepaper on Feb 12, 2017 15:18:08 GMT
I think it was just another means to break him and make him start appreciating his family more. I didn't watch TVD (actually I did once upon a time, but then Stefan was writing in his diary and I changed the channel), but from what I've seen from Klaus on TO he seems like he wanted a family that will always be loyal to him no matter what. Even if he's rude, or he mistreats them, he wants them loyal so he doesn't feel alone.
Considering how he was constantly abused as a child, I get that he's showing the same sort of mentalities that Mikael showed him only in a skewed way. Mikael wanted him gone, which is why the abuse happened. And Klaus wants people in his life, which is why he uses fear and intimidation. His line can try whatever they want, but if they kill him then they're dead too. That's something he doesn't have even with his family.
Now that he's by himself, he'll start to realize that his ways were wrong and try to change. I think he's just tired now and while I don't think he'll die, I don't think he'll be the same sort of person that he once was. He shouldn't be too. Hope's birth, the death of Cami, and his lost sire line should bring some deep reflection for him.
That being said, I'm incredibly bummed that there wasn't some sort of payback for the loss of sire line. Not from Klaus, but magically. I was really hoping that the longer he's unlinked to his vamps the more vulnerable they would be. Kind of like how if you were not part of the werewolf ritual you don't get the perks from the union.
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 12, 2017 15:26:33 GMT
I agree... Some humility too.
I really want to see his relationship with Marcel improve.
From spoilers it seems that Klaus will fall back to his old ways (I hope for a while) when he comes back. Also that he and Marcel will eventually patch up their relationship. I am really hoping this important relationship gets better. They have hit their low bottom. There is no way down, only up...
That i dont get it. I read this from some other poster too. Being Klaus sire line does not make a vampire extra-ordinary. Actually being Klaus or anyone else's sireline makes them vulnerable. I mean how would you or I will feel if we find out that our lives can be taken any minute if the person whom we are linked to dies even if that person is hard to kill lol.
From no where in tvd or TO it is established that vampires strength comes from their sires.
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Post by tissuepaper on Feb 12, 2017 15:33:51 GMT
That i dont get it. I read this from some other poster too. Being Klaus sire line does not make a vampire extra-ordinary. Actually being Klaus or anyone else's sireline makes them vulnerable. I mean how would you or I will feel if we find out that our lives can be taken any minute if the person whom we are linked to dies even if that person is hard to kill lol. From no where in tvd or TO it is established that vampires strength comes from their sires. I just thought it would be a fun loophole. Something they only realized once the link was broken. |
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 12, 2017 16:20:26 GMT
What upsets me is that why does Elijah or Rebekah's line get to have a bullet proof protection even though season 3 was all ELijah's line. They were the one who had most anger towards the Originals. Why did they have to go and break Klaus's line and not theirs?
Also these are the things that show how Elijah is like Damon who does not suffer any consequences of his actions. It is always Klaus but ironically all these hypocritic treatment to his character manage to get him sympathy from fans LOL. Even when I am angry at him, I am sympathetic towards him. Strange.
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 12, 2017 16:20:49 GMT
That i dont get it. I read this from some other poster too. Being Klaus sire line does not make a vampire extra-ordinary. Actually being Klaus or anyone else's sireline makes them vulnerable. I mean how would you or I will feel if we find out that our lives can be taken any minute if the person whom we are linked to dies even if that person is hard to kill lol. From no where in tvd or TO it is established that vampires strength comes from their sires. I just thought it would be a fun loophole. Something they only realized once the link was broken. What upsets me is that why does Elijah or Rebekah's line get to have a bullet proof protection even though season 3 was all ELijah's line. They were the one who had most anger towards the Originals. Why did they have to go and break Klaus's line and not theirs? Also these are the things that show how Elijah is like Damon who does not suffer any consequences of his actions. It is always Klaus but ironically all these hypocritic treatment to his character manage to get him sympathy from fans LOL. Even when I am angry at him, I am sympathetic towards him. Strange. |
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Post by tissuepaper on Feb 12, 2017 21:12:54 GMT
What upsets me is that why does Elijah or Rebekah's line get to have a bullet proof protection even though season 3 was all ELijah's line. They were the one who had most anger towards the Originals. Why did they have to go and break Klaus's line and not theirs? Also these are the things that show how Elijah is like Damon who does not suffer any consequences of his actions. It is always Klaus but ironically all these hypocritic treatment to his character manage to get him sympathy from fans LOL. Even when I am angry at him, I am sympathetic towards him. Strange. Klaus is easier to hate, which is why he has more enemies. Elijah is worse, but has an air of nobility and honour with him that probably terrifies a lot of people. As for why they broke Klaus' sire line and not the others. I think Rebekah wasn't available to film and they planned on killing the OG vamp to test if it worked. If they killed Elijah and they all die, then that wouldn't help anyone. Klaus was the next logically choice. |
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 12, 2017 21:26:40 GMT
What do you mean that wouldnt help anyone?
Now that I think about it, since all the vampires CAN hurt Hope since she is KLaus's daughter and Elijah's niece, the easiest way to take care of their enemies was to sacrifice themselves. All the vampires would have died. LOL
At least that is still a sure short way of killing the Strix which to this day are the most powerful and the dangerous vampires after the originals.
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Post by tissuepaper on Feb 12, 2017 22:27:47 GMT
What do you mean that wouldnt help anyone? Now that I think about it, since all the vampires CAN hurt Hope since she is KLaus's daughter and Elijah's niece, the easiest way to take care of their enemies was to sacrifice themselves. All the vampires would have died. LOL At least that is still a sure short way of killing the Strix which to this day are the most powerful and the dangerous vampires after the originals. The Strixs trying out the de-linking spell on Elijah and then killing him would risk all of their lives, so Klaus was a safer option since they don't care about him or his sires. I believe it was said on the show that if it worked on Klaus they'd do the same with Elijah and be rid of two Originals. |
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Post by cecejk on Feb 16, 2017 17:33:40 GMT
I think they broke the sire line just so we would feel the fear in killing Klaus. As long as he was linked to the MF gang we all knew he would not die.(even though there is no TO show without Klaus, the only original left would have been Elijah full time) To show any danger at all to Klaus they had to unlink him. But they should have unlinked Elijah and Rebekah, too.
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. DId they think that TO will end before TVD? ONly in that scenario them breaking the sireline to protect TVD people makes sense. We have been hearing since last year that TVD is coming to an end. There were even rumors that season 7 will be last but then no. We didnt hear about TO getting cancelled or getting last season till after season 3 ended so the question is did JP has some inner intuition? 
