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Post by Allison on Jun 5, 2017 14:57:05 GMT
The Originals- 4x11 A Spirit Here That Won't Be Broken Discussion Thread
A FAMILY BETRAYAL — When it's discovered that The Hollow is using a magical totem to fuel her power, Freya enlists Rebekah and Klaus' help to locate and destroy it. Elsewhere, an ultimatum by The Hollow puts Kol at odds with his own siblings, while an unexpected run-in forces Marcel and Rebekah to confront the growing tension between them. Finally, The Hollow's plan for Hayley leaves her in the fight of her life.
I fear for Hayley this season. She's come full circle and the character has taken on some very tragic elements- I'd hate her dying personally, she's one of my favourite characters but it feels like what she will do, will be for Hope and now they've fleshed out her lineage and explained why she ended up the last of her line, for her, breaking her family's endless cycle for Hope calls back to the first season. I want both Klaus and Hayley to make it through this season, and not just because Hope needs them. It doesn't seem right that two people who got a raw deal to start with should lose out on getting to see their daughter grow up.
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Post by AJ on Jun 5, 2017 20:57:09 GMT
Seems like they're setting up round 2 of Davina being sacrificed to protect the family. Although, Kol is usually at odds with his family.
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Post by dstormborn on Jun 6, 2017 12:55:13 GMT
Yeah I have the same concerns about Hayley (or Kol. Davina, Rebekah) as mentioned elsewhere. I hope that the new writer Jeffrey Lieber was on Lost when it still was good and that he will stop the killing of females.
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Post by tissuepaper on Jun 6, 2017 21:40:38 GMT
If Hayley dies I think I might stop watching the show. She isn't my favourite character on the show, but killing the mother of Hope is just lazy writing. We can redeem Klaus and try to get him to have a great relationship with his daughter, despite what he did in the past and continues to do now, but Hayley might die even though she also wants a family and never had one? I think it would be incredibly tragic for her to search for her family, have one and join the Mikaelsons, only to die in the end.
Plus, the mother always dies when it comes to special kids.
That being said, Kol better live because he is my favourite.
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Post by AJ on Jun 10, 2017 22:36:59 GMT
Yay! Kol didn't die!
Boo! Marcel doesn't know about Davina!
WTF! Hope is possessed!
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Post by Allison on Jun 12, 2017 7:50:19 GMT
Yay! Kol didn't die! Boo! Marcel doesn't know about Davina! WTF! Hope is possessed! I think since Kol and by extension, Davina (the setup this season shows that she wasn't intended to stay dead) are returning for finale, they were picking their battles for things over the next two episodes although Davina probably has trouble facing Marcel right now. Also, just her being alive changes the paradigm- I didn't expect Kol to die... get daggered and kudos to Klaus- there was no good choice but he played the risk that wasn't done last time than lose Kol and Marcel. I think Klaus has come so far and if the Hollow's endgame is to try and drive a wedge and get Klaus to harm/kill Hayley as the second-to-last Labonair, I do think he has evolved so much since "Fire with Fire". That said, I'm at a nine when it comes to fearing for Hayley's survival- her tragic vibe has hit an apex and her death is a dynamic change... I think Kol is actually quite safe this year. |
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Post by Madamimadam on Jun 12, 2017 18:45:01 GMT
Yay! Kol didn't die! Boo! Marcel doesn't know about Davina! WTF! Hope is possessed! SO Hope finally got possessed. From what I am hearing Kol used Hope. My prediction is he will come back and die in the finale. He will feel guilty for betraying his family and come back to make up for it. I hear Hayley is trying to be a better person for Hope's sake and Haylijah might on the brink of break up after the fiasco of 410. Does anyone think it will happen? I get the feeling there is another angst. I still cant believe how much Klaus has evolved. But is it true that Klaus and Hayley refused for Hope's blood to be used to destroy the Hollow? I read something like that on twitter. |
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Post by Madamimadam on Jun 12, 2017 18:57:51 GMT
Yay! Kol didn't die! Boo! Marcel doesn't know about Davina! WTF! Hope is possessed! I think since Kol and by extension, Davina (the setup this season shows that she wasn't intended to stay dead) are returning for finale, they were picking their battles for things over the next two episodes although Davina probably has trouble facing Marcel right now. Also, just her being alive changes the paradigm- I didn't expect Kol to die... get daggered and kudos to Klaus- there was no good choice but he played the risk that wasn't done last time than lose Kol and Marcel. I think Klaus has come so far and if the Hollow's endgame is to try and drive a wedge and get Klaus to harm/kill Hayley as the second-to-last Labonair, I do think he has evolved so much since "Fire with Fire".That said, I'm at a nine when it comes to fearing for Hayley's survival- her tragic vibe has hit an apex and her death is a dynamic change... I think Kol is actually quite safe this year. I think Hayley is safe. She might come close to it but I think overall she is safe unless she dies in a suicidal for the family sake death. Would be interesting for PT character to die in the same way as PW character died. Anyways, her depression and tragic vibe, if I am reading right into what I am reading about the episodes is right, is because she will have to do something she does not want to; break up with Elijah. She is trying to become a better person for Hope. Throughout this season she has been telling Elijah to become a better person but he has not shown any improvement or inclination. Also I dont think that she really believed Klaus when he told her that elijah only did what he did for the family. Now she actually saw who he really is. He could have hidden behind any of the white doors but he chose his worst memories to hide behind. I think that really depressed Hayley and the fact that she was not able to bring him back. it was Hope who did it. Also when he brutally beat her without any provocation. I still think Kol or Rebekah might be the ones to die eventually. But maybe Vincent? I do agree with the bold part. I cannot believe how far they have come from e1. |
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Post by AJ on Jun 12, 2017 21:37:16 GMT
Yay! Kol didn't die! Boo! Marcel doesn't know about Davina! WTF! Hope is possessed! SO Hope finally got possessed. From what I am hearing Kol used Hope. My prediction is he will come back and die in the finale. He will feel guilty for betraying his family and come back to make up for it. I hear Hayley is trying to be a better person for Hope's sake and Haylijah might on the brink of break up after the fiasco of 410. Does anyone think it will happen? I get the feeling there is another angst. I still cant believe how much Klaus has evolved. But is it true that Klaus and Hayley refused for Hope's blood to be used to destroy the Hollow? I read something like that on twitter. No, they used a bit of Hope's blood on the weapons. They didn't want to, but Freya convinced them she was the only one who had blood that would work. I don't think Kol will come back, either. He's gonna let his family finish the fight and take some time to cool off before he comes back. We were only told he'd be in some eps, we were never promised that he'd be here for the final. I do think Hayley and Elijah are done, for now, anyway. |
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