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Post by Madamimadam on Mar 18, 2017 4:38:13 GMT
I am making a new thread to discuss the actual episode since last one has gotten too long.
I liked the episode. 4 out of 5 are up. Love Marcel/Klaus, Hayley/Keelin, Hayley/Hope, Marcel/Vincent scenes.
First of all Marcel took out the dagger. I knew it. He doesnt want to give him to Alastair coz he knows Alastair will kill him whereas he does not want to because of Rebekah and I guess for Hope. Marcel still has feelings for Rebekah. I see a triangle between R/M and witch helping Marcel. But it seems that Klacel relationship will take some time to get back on track since apparently Marcel has washed his hands off Klaus.
Klaus learned something at least. Humility apparently when he asked for Mercy from Marcel. But him calling out on Marcel was him full of himself again but he might be onto something since Marcel just lashed. KLaus deserved that dagger(?). Question is: Is Klaus right about Marcel? Does Marcel NEED Klaus because he is afraid of what he might become or he needs guidance? I am inclining towards it.
Marcel cares about Hayley more than we imagined. He will not let anyone harm Hayley or Hope. So I am hoping that this new threat to Hope will bring the family together. I wonder what olive branch Elijah will offer in next episode though?
Overall Marcel played his cards well. People either love him or fear him LOL
Hayley has her heart on right path. Her and Elijah reunion (I think real one will come later) was sweet.
Freya is out for blood. She is the one keeping Keelin prisoner. I think that might be what Hayley and Keelin are fighting/ arguing aboug in ep2/3
Vincent played Cami card on Klaus. Marcel and Vincent are smarter than Klaus, at least right now.
Alastair reign was short LOL.
I think that graffiti is Vincent's ex-wife work.
OOO and Hope drawing like Davina was a surprising touch. I wonder what will it lead to.
Mary is back 😢. Mary still trying to break Hayley away from Mikaelson. I get her pov. Her heart is in right place but really girl give it up. Hayley and Hope are Mikaelson. But Hayley raised excellent point.
Syphons(sp ?) witch concept has been introduced. We know Josie and Lizzie are crossing over in 408. That kind of starts to make sense.
So really? Are we to believe that Elijah can still control his blood lust while Rebekah and Kol cannot?
Hayley's wolf was great. I wish we get to see Klaus's but i doubt it.
Vincent and Maxine are going to be love interest, it seems. Adam ..... dont know what to make of him yet but he is in trouble. Maybe even started something.
I loved that party too. Reminded me of season 1 parties. Nostalgia is a ....
I think Marcel deserves to be a king even if he does not have "experience" At least he is involved with the community and trying to do something for NOLA. Klaus didnt and never bothered. At least not shown in current time period. They were different people back in when NOLA was made. Things changed/ People changed/ Priorities changed.
Last but not least.. Acting has toned down a lot which is a great plus for me. Hope it continues. Pt's acting was the best IMO. The actress playing Keelin was not bad either. Of course CMD and Yousaf were awesome.
I will give it 7/10
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Post by dstormborn on Mar 18, 2017 9:19:24 GMT
I loved that episode! Hope was great, Hayley was amazing, plus she gets hotter with age lol. They should have done those amazing werewolf fight scenes already in earlier seasons, IMO that would have been great for the ratings.
I'm not really buying that yearly unsired vampire gathering idea.
Witch child abduction is not really new but can make for a great story.
Hayley should ditch Elijah until he looses that stick up his arse.
No Rebekah :-( Freya is badass, I approve.
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Post by Madamimadam on Mar 18, 2017 16:05:19 GMT
I loved that episode! Hope was great, Hayley was amazing, plus she gets hotter with age lol. They should have done those amazing werewolf fight scenes already in earlier seasons, IMO that would have been great for the ratings.I'm not really buying that yearly unsired vampire gathering idea. Witch child abduction is not really new but can make for a great story. Hayley should ditch Elijah until he looses that stick up his arse. No Rebekah :-( Freya is badass, I approve.Do u remember vincent ex-wife? Her extra curricular activities will be addressed in this season. Kid abduction is set up to the main arc of this season. I bet Josie and Lizie will get abducted any time soon. Agree with bold part. That was so cool. And Elijah... u know where i stand with him. My throat is getting sore saying the same thing again and again lol Well the unsired vampires come for gloating apparently.... They deserve that at least... lol |
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Post by Madamimadam on Mar 18, 2017 17:54:25 GMT
Marcel said that no one has seen or heard from Mikaelson nearly half a century. That witch (whats her name) told him about why Alastair thinks Elijah is alive. Surely Marcel would have known that too i.e. Elijah sire line being alive and hence Elijah being alive, right? Even if he thought Elijah had died, my question is that did he not suspect that Hayley will try to bring them back?
The other thing I want confirmation on is if he knew/ suspected that Elijah and Kol are still alive OR he was just using info from Alastair and that witch?
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Post by Madamimadam on Mar 18, 2017 19:40:42 GMT
so Hope was drawing hair, right? It could develop into something else but since Maxine had that sort of hair and she has been introduced as potential love interest for Vincent. Do you suppose it could be her esp if her son is somehow involved in the "abduction"? She abducted him to throw off the suspicion off of her?
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Post by AJ on Mar 18, 2017 19:47:27 GMT
Half a century is 50 years, and the Mikaelsons have only been gone 5. Marcel did eventually become aware of Elijah not being dead, since Alastair tracked down Stryx. He then learned about the link keeping all the siblings alive. My guess is that it's all news to him as it's shown to us, but he's a quick study. He knows now that Kol and Elijah didn't die, and he probably knows Hayley is out trying to find a way to save them. It's not surprising to me that Marcel would declare Hayley and Hope off limits. As a baby, he rescued Hayley, and he's always had a 'no harming children' policy. That would extend to adult Hayley, as the only family Hope has left. Agree that Freya and Hayley are probably butting heads over Freya's determination to keep a wolf prisoner. Can't see it lasting that long, though. Hayley will get Elijah to side with her, and the wolf will go free. I'm glad I didn't bet on the lifespan of Alastair. They bring in people that sound so bad, and then kill them in ten minutes. The ouroboros and the floaty light remind me of Eva, yes, but also the Ancestors. I wonder if they're trying to find a way to re-tether themselves to this plane. Also, spoilers mention a siren, but was there one in TVD, or is that what we're gonna be dealing with this season? I'm so done with Marcel. But I'm all in for Vincent getting a new romantic interest.  |
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Post by AJ on Mar 18, 2017 19:49:36 GMT
so Hope was drawing hair, right? It could develop into something else but since Maxine had that sort of hair and she has been introduced as potential love interest for Vincent. Do you suppose it could be her esp if her son is somehow involved in the "abduction"? She abducted him to throw off the suspicion off of her? Hope was drawing the same symbol that's been showing up all over NOLA: the Ourosboros. |
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Post by Madamimadam on Mar 18, 2017 20:09:38 GMT
Half a century is 50 years, and the Mikaelsons have only been gone 5. Marcel did eventually become aware of Elijah not being dead, since Alastair tracked down Stryx. He then learned about the link keeping all the siblings alive. My guess is that it's all news to him as it's shown to us, but he's a quick study. He knows now that Kol and Elijah didn't die, and he probably knows Hayley is out trying to find a way to save them. It's not surprising to me that Marcel would declare Hayley and Hope off limits. As a baby, he rescued Hayley, and he's always had a 'no harming children' policy. That would extend to adult Hayley, as the only family Hope has left. Agree that Freya and Hayley are probably butting heads over Freya's determination to keep a wolf prisoner. Can't see it lasting that long, though. Hayley will get Elijah to side with her, and the wolf will go free. I'm glad I didn't bet on the lifespan of Alastair. They bring in people that sound so bad, and then kill them in ten minutes. The ouroboros and the floaty light remind me of Eva, yes, but also the Ancestors. I wonder if they're trying to find a way to re-tether themselves to this plane. Also, spoilers mention a siren, but was there one in TVD, or is that what we're gonna be dealing with this season? I'm so done with Marcel. But I'm all in for Vincent getting a new romantic interest. OOPs yeah it was decade. I mistyped. Hayley does not need to get Elijah on her side, Elijah will/ has always volunteer. Still I dont think Freya will not let go of Keelin but they will come to a unified front in e4 as per the synopsis of that episode Oh I was wrong about that Hope drawing then. Thanks for clarifying about that and Marcel's take on Mikaelsons. I just got the feeling that he knew that Elijah and Kol were not dead. Hayley mentioned Syphon witches, Right? I didnt know about any Siren witches but there was siren witches in tvd. Vincent saw that symbol, didnt he think of his wife and her deed at that time? I too thought Alastair will spend more time on screen but poor him!! Right now I am done with Klaus AND Marcel but it is understandable given what has happened between them in the past. It will get better and maybe Hope will make Klaus bearable. |
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Post by AJ on Mar 18, 2017 22:37:02 GMT
Elijah may or may not side with Hayley on his own. He'd see Freya's point about needing to secure wolf venom from all the tribes as long as Marcel has the capacity to harm them with his bite, and he's not above doing shady crap when it benefits the family. But I think Hayley will lean on him to side with her in freeing (whatever her name is) because Hayley doesn't hold with wolves being prisoners.
Marcel says in the ep that he came to know Elijah (at the very least) wasn't dead, via Stryx members still existing, and then confirmed that the Mikaelson siblings were kept alive via the spell that bound them to Klaus. It's unclear whether he learned that a while ago, or during the ep, but I lean toward in the ep since he didn't know Alastair and had to ask Klaus how to manange him.
Hayley mentioned that she got a witch to siphon Bex's curse - I assume it's a reference to siphoners/Heretics? Or just a tossaway line on how Bex got cured.
I wonder what the ourosboros means regarding this season. We've heard stuff about haunting of a city, which is why I think it's related to the Ancestors. That's a metric fuckton of witches, you can't tell me they can't find a way back if they worked at it.
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Post by tissuepaper on Mar 18, 2017 23:38:18 GMT
I liked Alister, mainly for his accent and the fact that his anger towards Klaus is 100% justified. The show is the Originals and we all like the Mikaelsons (to varying degrees) but wow are they jerks. It's one thing to create a diversion, it's another to get a man to kill his wife and child for it.
Once the witches realize that their kids are in danger, I think they'll be resentful towards Vincent and Marcel for closing their link to the only powers that protected them for so long. Sometimes breaking links of oppression doesn't always end in rainbows and butterflies. Breaking the link with Klaus is causing the town to have frequent vampire visitors. And breaking the link with the ancestors is causing the witches to lose their children to outside forces.
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Post by Allison on Mar 19, 2017 2:42:51 GMT
The Ancestors are a con job- the TVD finale had the Bennett line who had found peace come and help Bonnie channel the mystical energy of hellfire and use it to destroy hell. You don't need an Ancestral Plane as witches to get your bloodline's help. They perpetuated this myth to keep control which was why witches like Davina, Sophie and Vincent who was probably next on their hit list, faced massive consequences for their disobedience.
Davina was still powerful without them and was living proof that the New Orleans witches didn't need the Ancestors. Sophie was killed, and it was implied as an order from the Ancestors to Monique, and the reason was she believed in their power and thus her power was dependent on theirs.
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Post by tissuepaper on Mar 19, 2017 14:41:22 GMT
The Ancestors are a con job- the TVD finale had the Bennett line who had found peace come and help Bonnie channel the mystical energy of hellfire and use it to destroy hell. You don't need an Ancestral Plane as witches to get your bloodline's help. They perpetuated this myth to keep control which was why witches like Davina, Sophie and Vincent who was probably next on their hit list, faced massive consequences for their disobedience. Davina was still powerful without them and was living proof that the New Orleans witches didn't need the Ancestors. Sophie was killed, and it was implied as an order from the Ancestors to Monique, and the reason was she believed in their power and thus her power was dependent on theirs. They're absolutely a con job, but I can see some of the witches wondering if they should have stayed under their oppressive eyes only because they're facing hardships now. |
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