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Post by ceraleigh on Feb 27, 2017 22:18:17 GMT
Is this the right place for this? I put it here because of its connection to Kol (Character). Since we are probably never going to know who it is or how or when they were turned, what are your ideas for Kol's 1st sire? Mine is- (just an example. Info could change or be added to.) Jordan- Born January 5, 1086
- Turned April 20, 1104
- Male
- Formerly a Witch
- Dark Skin. Brown Eyes. Black Hair.
- Son of Silas Doppelgänger (Alejandro - who became Vampire when Jordan was 3) and Bennett Witch (Ophelia) (Only child and had no children of his own. Bennett and Doppelgänger lines continued separately through other members of each line.) (So Stefan and Bonnie aren't related)
- He was a witch that Kol had allied with. He was injured so Kol healed him, then he was killed. Becoming Kol's 1st vampire, he hadn't turned anyone before because the idea never appealed to him*.
- They agreed to stick together and help eachother out since they both needed it.
- While together, even though they were both crazy on their own, they were able to keep each other calm for the most part.
- He got Kol in the habit of beating people with a baseball bat. Though at first it was just any hard stick like object.
- He has a weird sense of humor.
- Will flirt with nearly anything.
- Will do anything to protect those he cares about.
- Had a crush on Rebekah.
- Hated Klaus and Elijah.
- They both still had a desire for a connection to magic and hung out with witches.
- He died around the 16th-17th century due to something caused by Klaus and or Elijah. Kol went psychotic because Jordan was the only one who cared about him.
- He Is played by "Chicago Fire" actor 'Charlie Barnett'.
*In season 2 it was stated he hated being a vampire, so i figured he wouldnt be likely to turn many either because he didn't want them to go through what he was going through. Or because he didn't want to deal with the possible annoyance of it. That likely changed after Jordan died. The only claim we have that he turned a lot was a line by Elena and Elijah, neither of whom know him all that well if at all. And Elijah just said Kol and Klaus werent being discreet. And we know Klaus has turned dozens possibly hundreds, so I figured that meant Klaus turned a lot while Kol killed a lot.
Let me know what your ideas are!😆
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 27, 2017 22:50:23 GMT
Is this the right place for this? I put it here because of its connection to Kol (Character). Since we are probably never going to know who it is or how or when they were turned, what are your ideas for Kol's 1st sire? Mine is- (just an example. Info could change or be added to.) Jordan- Born January 5, 1086
- Turned April 20, 1104
- Male
- Formerly a Witch
- Dark Skin. Brown Eyes. Black Hair.
- Son of Silas Doppelgänger (Alejandro - who became Vampire when Jordan was 3) and Bennett Witch (Ophelia) (Only child and had no children of his own. Bennett and Doppelgänger lines continued separately through other members of each line.) (So Stefan and Bonnie aren't related)
- He was a witch that Kol had allied with. He was injured so Kol healed him, then he was killed. Becoming Kol's 1st vampire, he hadn't turned anyone before because the idea never appealed to him*.
- They agreed to stick together and help eachother out since they both needed it.
- While together, even though they were both crazy on their own, they were able to keep each other calm for the most part.
- He got Kol in the habit of beating people with a baseball bat. Though at first it was just any hard stick like object.
- He has a weird sense of humor.
- Will flirt with nearly anything.
- Will do anything to protect those he cares about.
- Had a crush on Rebekah.
- Hated Klaus and Elijah.
- They both still had a desire for a connection to magic and hung out with witches.
- He died around the 16th-17th century due to something caused by Klaus and or Elijah. Kol went psychotic because Jordan was the only one who cared about him.
- He Is played by "Chicago Fire" actor 'Charlie Barnett'.
*In season 2 it was stated he hated being a vampire, so i figured he wouldnt be likely to turn many either because he didn't want them to go through what he was going through. Or because he didn't want to deal with the possible annoyance of it. That likely changed after Jordan died. The only claim we have that he turned a lot was a line by Elena and Elijah, neither of whom know him all that well if at all. And Elijah just said Kol and Klaus werent being discreet. And we know Klaus has turned dozens possibly hundreds, so I figured that meant Klaus turned a lot while Kol killed a lot.
Let me know what your ideas are!😆
Who was Jordan? I am drawing blank. I thought Finn hated being a vampire. Others didnt mind it. They just rolled with it. Kol was into witch craft but that does not mean that he didnt love being a vampire. I could be wrong. I think that the moment Kol found out that he could turn people he grabbed any random guy from street and turned him and moved on to the next one unlike Elijah whose first person to convert was a king/prince/lord (?), Tristan. That does not necessarily mean that KOL's and KLaus's line were longer than Elijah's. I thought he meant that they were not careful as in covering up their tracks. I think Rebekah's line for sure is shortest. KOL's line was not short either. I seem to recall when Jeremy killed KOL a lot of vampires died, his body revealed the map which could only be revealed if he killed plenty of vampires not just a handful. I doubt Kol would just kill when he could turn them and revel in the knowledge that he is the father to so many. |
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Post by ceraleigh on Feb 28, 2017 7:08:26 GMT
Is this the right place for this? I put it here because of its connection to Kol (Character). Since we are probably never going to know who it is or how or when they were turned, what are your ideas for Kol's 1st sire? Mine is- (just an example. Info could change or be added to.) Jordan- Born January 5, 1086
- Turned April 20, 1104
- Male
- Formerly a Witch
- Dark Skin. Brown Eyes. Black Hair.
- Son of Silas Doppelgänger (Alejandro - who became Vampire when Jordan was 3) and Bennett Witch (Ophelia) (Only child and had no children of his own. Bennett and Doppelgänger lines continued separately through other members of each line.) (So Stefan and Bonnie aren't related)
- He was a witch that Kol had allied with. He was injured so Kol healed him, then he was killed. Becoming Kol's 1st vampire, he hadn't turned anyone before because the idea never appealed to him*.
- They agreed to stick together and help eachother out since they both needed it.
- While together, even though they were both crazy on their own, they were able to keep each other calm for the most part.
- He got Kol in the habit of beating people with a baseball bat. Though at first it was just any hard stick like object.
- He has a weird sense of humor.
- Will flirt with nearly anything.
- Will do anything to protect those he cares about.
- Had a crush on Rebekah.
- Hated Klaus and Elijah.
- They both still had a desire for a connection to magic and hung out with witches.
- He died around the 16th-17th century due to something caused by Klaus and or Elijah. Kol went psychotic because Jordan was the only one who cared about him.
- He Is played by "Chicago Fire" actor 'Charlie Barnett'.
*In season 2 it was stated he hated being a vampire, so i figured he wouldnt be likely to turn many either because he didn't want them to go through what he was going through. Or because he didn't want to deal with the possible annoyance of it. That likely changed after Jordan died. The only claim we have that he turned a lot was a line by Elena and Elijah, neither of whom know him all that well if at all. And Elijah just said Kol and Klaus werent being discreet. And we know Klaus has turned dozens possibly hundreds, so I figured that meant Klaus turned a lot while Kol killed a lot.
Let me know what your ideas are!😆
Who was Jordan? I am drawing blank. I thought Finn hated being a vampire. Others didnt mind it. They just rolled with it. Kol was into witch craft but that does not mean that he didnt love being a vampire. I could be wrong. I think that the moment Kol found out that he could turn people he grabbed any random guy from street and turned him and moved on to the next one unlike Elijah whose first person to convert was a king/prince/lord (?), Tristan. That does not necessarily mean that KOL's and KLaus's line were longer than Elijah's. I thought he meant that they were not careful as in covering up their tracks. I think Rebekah's line for sure is shortest. KOL's line was not short either. I seem to recall when Jeremy killed KOL a lot of vampires died, his body revealed the map which could only be revealed if he killed plenty of vampires not just a handful. I doubt Kol would just kill when he could turn them and revel in the knowledge that he is the father to so many.
He's not in the show. He's my made up 1st sired for Kol. I thought Finn hated being a vampire. Others didnt mind it. They just rolled with it. Kol was into witch craft but that does not mean that he didnt love being a vampire. I could be wrong.
I think that the moment Kol found out that he could turn people he grabbed any random guy from street and turned him and moved on to the next one unlike Elijah whose first person to convert was a king/prince/lord (?), Tristan.
Klaus is the only one of them who was okay with being a vampire. Elijah was only in the sense that he thought other than death there was nothing he could do about it. Finn hated being an abomination, Rebekah hated that it kept her from being able to have her own family, Mikael hated having to feed on blood. Kol told Davina he hated it in 2x14 because he couldn't handle the bloodlust or heightened emotions. Kol has shown no sign that he turned a lot of people. That does not necessarily mean that KOL's and KLaus's line were longer than Elijah's. I thought he meant that they were not careful as in covering up their tracks. I think Rebekah's line for sure is shortest. KOL's line was not short either. I seem to recall when Jeremy killed KOL a lot of vampires died, his body revealed the map which could only be revealed if he killed plenty of vampires not just a handful. I doubt Kol would just kill when he could turn them and revel in the knowledge that he is the father to so many.
Never said Kol's and Klaus's lines were longer than Elijah's. Klaus's is, definitely, as shown in tvd he turned dozens in the span of a year. Plus Elijah's Strix proving he turned a lot as well. And the Hunter's Map is not proof that Kol turned a lot of people. Since as we saw with Finn, even if you only turn 1 person and that person turned 1 and so on, after 1000 years you could create a massive sireline. And Sage turned tons. Rebekah's line definitely isn't the shortest. Technically Mikael's is as it doesn't exist since he never turned anyone, followed by Finn. From Longest to shortest it goes: Klaus - Elijah - Kol/Rebekah - Finn. Kol has always been smarter than Klaus when it came to killing/turning. Klaus would turn people just to create fear, despite the fact that it puts them all in potential danger. Whereas Kol would just eliminate the threat altogether by killing them. Another reason Kol was not likely to turn many is because of his respect for witches and Nature, he would take no pride in knowing he betrayed that. |
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 28, 2017 7:25:40 GMT
we have not seen Rebekah or Kol's line so we can never be sure. Until this season everyone thought that Elijah didnt have a long line. In fact some people thought Elijah didnt have a line while the others thought that he didnt turn people intentionally or for selfish reasons when in fact now we know differently.
I dont buy that Kol didnt turn a lot of people. But since Kol was not given much screen time and story line we will never really know how long of a line he had. I have suspicion that we will know anything about Rebekah's too. I am not even completely sold on Eljiah having a "shorter" line.
Anyway I like your suggestion of Kol's first sire.
Kol would have been a great witch. I really liked Kaleb version of Kol.
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