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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 21, 2017 15:07:06 GMT
Someone on imdb board said that it is Damon who is dying for Elena and Stefan's sake (so that he can have his happiness with Caroline). That will be his redemption. That could explain that Stelena picture of 816; Stefan is crying in that. People are assuming that they are happiness tears but I think it is happiness + bearer of bad news tears. I think that is Stefan visiting Elena's mind with Damon to say their goodbyes. Yes it has been established that Damon's happiness is with Elena and JP has mentioned that they are in his reach but why is so hard to believe that his happiness are redefined; they are to see his family and loved ones safe, healthy and happy.
JP said to some fan yesterday that Damon and Elena will come face to face. Very elusive answer if you ask me. Of course they will come face to face in that dream if my theory is right. Confirmation of no kids is another indication that Delena will not get their happy ever after. I mean if they did give Delena happy ever after then shouldnt they give a ff of them with their kids too which is why Damon and Elena wanted to be human.
How can Damon ensure his brother's happiness by dying? Can Stefan somehow live a normal healthy human life? Can the cure be used for Caroline? Where is the cure right now? Maybe by giving Caroline her happy ending with Stefan he thinks he can atone for what he did to Caroline too.
Thoughts?
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Post by imane074 on Feb 21, 2017 23:06:39 GMT
I don't think he's dying,I think it's either Bonnie or Stefan but I can't stand delena/Damon's fans and just for them to get what they deserve for their online bullying I hope he's the one dying
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Post by dstormborn on Feb 22, 2017 21:52:10 GMT
Enzo will be out of his pocket world for Bonnie, that makes one happy couple.
They just broke off Steroline and seem to promote her with Alaric. They are dunzo, especially with Stefan whining 24/7, he basically nuked his relationship with Elens for a similar reason.
Elena served as huge cockblocker for Damon for 2 years. He even told every girl who didn't want it to hear she looked like Elena. Not giving Delena to the fans doesn't make sense IMHO.
So we will get two couples out of 3, Stefan and Katherine dead and Caroline either dead or gravitating towards Alaric.
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 22, 2017 22:22:15 GMT
Enzo will be out of his pocket world for Bonnie, that makes one happy couple. They just broke off Steroline and seem to promote her with Alaric. They are dunzo, especially with Stefan whining 24/7, he basically nuked his relationship with Elens for a similar reason. Elena served as huge cockblocker for Damon for 2 years. He even told every girl who didn't want it to hear she looked like Elena. Not giving Delena to the fans doesn't make sense IMHO. So we will get two couples out of 3, Stefan and Katherine dead and Caroline either dead or gravitating towards Alaric. Spoilers.... Steroline have not broken up. They just another of their angst from my understanding because as per spoilers they will get married after their fake marriage reception is bombarded by Matt's mom who is partners with Katherine. But then there is ambiguity. Some are saying that Stefan will die after the "honeymoon" others are saying that the funeral is not of Stefan. Also that Caroline will turn human too. Not sure how is that even possible. That is why I asked if Damon can make is somehow possible by sacrificing himself in exchange for saving Stefan, bringing back Elena and turning Caroline into human (by doing that he will make up for what he did to Caroline)? Another theory is that Bonnie will die and will have her happily ever after with Enzo in afterlife. I don't know how I feel about it. I am okay with Alaric and Caroline. It was eww at a time since he was her teacher and all but I don't care anymore. They can be one of those couples who fall in love gradually after they get together. They do have kids together so it makes some sense that they get together but I dont think so. I think if JP is killing Stefan then she is going to use that opportunity to tie her up with Klaus. |
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 24, 2017 0:27:33 GMT
I think Caroline will become human at the end of the show.
Ian uploaded a video on his facebook and he talked about Caroline will have to make a choice between _ and _, _ and _. I think the choices will be between Klaus and Stefan, Mortality and Immortality.
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Post by AJ on Feb 24, 2017 2:01:46 GMT
Didn't Katherine lose her newfound humanness (ie, started her rapid decay) when someone took a drink of her blood? I'm almost positive we were told that one drink took all the cure out of her body.
How is Elena able to donate her blood repeatedly and turn all these people human again? Is she the fountain of mortality now?
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 24, 2017 18:32:53 GMT
Didn't Katherine lose her newfound humanness (ie, started her rapid decay) when someone took a drink of her blood? I'm almost positive we were told that one drink took all the cure out of her body. How is Elena able to donate her blood repeatedly and turn all these people human again? Is she the fountain of mortality now? She did when the cure was drained from her system as per my understanding. I seem to recall she was completely drained of her blood. I might be off. Bonnie took a syringe of blood/cure from elena body. Again as per my understanding, the cure is gone from her body. I dont now how one syringe of blood can take all cure out of her body. Anyways I think it is still in Stefan's. Rumor is that it will be drained out of his body after the wedding. Like in my original OP I talked about Damon dying for Elena and Stefan. Theory is that he will make a deal so that Elena comes back without Bonnie dying, Stefan does not die when and if the cure is taken out of his body. All for his life. That is how he will achieve his redemption. Now I dont know how will that be achieved honestly without a "loop hole"or miracle but what if Stefan/ Damon gives/ lets him give cure to Caroline so that she can live a human life with her kids. Damon will make a deal with "someone" so that his brother does not die now that cure is out of his body. People think that he will take the cure because his happiness is with Elena but that is too basic. I dont think the show will end at such a basic note. His sacrifice for the people he has come to care about will be proper end to his arc. Taking the cure so that he can have kids with Elena and live happily ever after shows that he is selfish and has not learned anything. Recently IS in a facebook video of his while talking about the finale he commented about Damon being a monster and how many times Bonnie had died and come back in this show and then about the choices that Caroline will have to make. I think all of these random throwing terms will come to play in the finale. LOL. Saying all this, I will not be surprised if not a fraction of all of this materializes. |
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Post by daydreamer on Feb 25, 2017 0:17:57 GMT
I think Caroline will become human at the end of the show. Ian uploaded a video on his facebook and he talked about Caroline will have to make a choice between _ and _, _ and _. I think the choices will be between Klaus and Stefan, Mortality and Immortality. I think Caroline will have to choose between a human life with Stefan or immortality. As far as I know, Caroline still loves being a vampire and I don't see her giving it up for anyone. Not for Stefan, not for her children, not for the chance at future children. It goes back to having someone love Caroline for who she is: whether she was an insecure vapid human girl or a vampire. It's gonna piss me off to no end if Stefan has the audacity to ask Caroline to take the cure for him so they can live a human life. To me, it just signals that she's not 'good enough' as is - a vampire who 99% of the time, has amazing control. I think it'll be likely that Caroline will realize she wants more than just a small town life - living in MF, in the perfect house with the perfect guy and being the perfect wife, mother, and community leader. That's not to say she'll rush off to NOLA and into Klaus' arms. It's just saying that she'll realize she wants more now. I think Klaus' words may come back to haunt her - the words he spoke when he saved her after Tyler's bite in S3. Can't recall the exact language, but he was telling her how beautiful the world was. Either that or she'll struggle with making a decision to take the cure; she'll finally decide to take it and before she can take the cure and/or tell Stefan, he dies. I really hope that she doesn't take it and THEN he dies. That's gonna be a kick in the face. I honestly don't think that Damon will die. I just can't see JP pissing off the Delana fans so spitefully. All the drama to make Delena happen, all the drama and ridiculousness to keep Elena's memory around after Nina left the show - I don't see Delana having anything but an HEA. Delena has been JP's fantasy from Day 1. Save |
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Post by daydreamer on Feb 25, 2017 0:22:42 GMT
Didn't Katherine lose her newfound humanness (ie, started her rapid decay) when someone took a drink of her blood? I'm almost positive we were told that one drink took all the cure out of her body. How is Elena able to donate her blood repeatedly and turn all these people human again? Is she the fountain of mortality now? People think that he will take the cure because his happiness is with Elena but that is too basic. I dont think the show will end at such a basic note. His sacrifice for the people he has come to care about will be proper end to his arc. Taking the cure so that he can have kids with Elena and live happily ever after shows that he is selfish and has not learned anything. Getting used to this quote function...yikes. Anyway. I don't understand how human Elena and human Damon are supposed to have a HEA in the first place. The whole foundation of their relationship is that Damon offers Elena excitement - as a vampire. That's what Elena is attracted to. As humans...I see them bitter and disillusioned in 5 years. I'm not convinced Damon wants to be human and I think he's eventually going to regret it. Save |
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 25, 2017 0:30:01 GMT
People think that he will take the cure because his happiness is with Elena but that is too basic. I dont think the show will end at such a basic note. His sacrifice for the people he has come to care about will be proper end to his arc. Taking the cure so that he can have kids with Elena and live happily ever after shows that he is selfish and has not learned anything. Getting used to this quote function...yikes. Anyway. I don't understand how human Elena and human Damon are supposed to have a HEA in the first place. The whole foundation of their relationship is that Damon offers Elena excitement - as a vampire. That's what Elena is attracted to. As humans...I see them bitter and disillusioned in 5 years. I'm not convinced Damon wants to be human and I think he's eventually going to regret it. SaveHe will not take the cure IMO. He will do something much bigger. Ironically I never doubted Damon's love for Elena but I never found Elena's feelings towards him convincing. I thought he liked her as human too. I saw the potential in season 1 in early episodes. And that is what the show wants us to believe. Damon met Elena before their first official meeting on the screen. |
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 25, 2017 0:35:55 GMT
I think Caroline will become human at the end of the show. Ian uploaded a video on his facebook and he talked about Caroline will have to make a choice between _ and _, _ and _. I think the choices will be between Klaus and Stefan, Mortality and Immortality. I think Caroline will have to choose between a human life with Stefan or immortality. As far as I know, Caroline still loves being a vampire and I don't see her giving it up for anyone. Not for Stefan, not for her children, not for the chance at future children. It goes back to having someone love Caroline for who she is: whether she was an insecure vapid human girl or a vampire. It's gonna piss me off to no end if Stefan has the audacity to ask Caroline to take the cure for him so they can live a human life. To me, it just signals that she's not 'good enough' as is - a vampire who 99% of the time, has amazing control. I think it'll be likely that Caroline will realize she wants more than just a small town life - living in MF, in the perfect house with the perfect guy and being the perfect wife, mother, and community leader. That's not to say she'll rush off to NOLA and into Klaus' arms. It's just saying that she'll realize she wants more now. I think Klaus' words may come back to haunt her - the words he spoke when he saved her after Tyler's bite in S3. Can't recall the exact language, but he was telling her how beautiful the world was. Either that or she'll struggle with making a decision to take the cure; she'll finally decide to take it and before she can take the cure and/or tell Stefan, he dies. I really hope that she doesn't take it and THEN he dies. That's gonna be a kick in the face. I honestly don't think that Damon will die. I just can't see JP pissing off the Delana fans so spitefully. All the drama to make Delena happen, all the drama and ridiculousness to keep Elena's memory around after Nina left the show - I don't see Delana having anything but an HEA. Delena has been JP's fantasy from Day 1. SaveCaroline loves being a vampire but she loves her children and Stefan more IMO. Given the choice, I think she will take it. As for Delena. Yes they will get a happy ending in the sense that she will get to say him goodbye and she will be okay with his sacrifice because that will protect the people they both love. Saying that I do agree with you about JP Delena fantasy. This show as per JP is going to end on bitter sweet ending. What is more bitter sweet? Killing Steroline or Delena? I think killing damon will be perfect ending for this show and proper closure to his arc. |
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Post by imane074 on Feb 25, 2017 7:17:40 GMT
I think Caroline will have to choose between a human life with Stefan or immortality. As far as I know, Caroline still loves being a vampire and I don't see her giving it up for anyone. Not for Stefan, not for her children, not for the chance at future children. It goes back to having someone love Caroline for who she is: whether she was an insecure vapid human girl or a vampire. It's gonna piss me off to no end if Stefan has the audacity to ask Caroline to take the cure for him so they can live a human life. To me, it just signals that she's not 'good enough' as is - a vampire who 99% of the time, has amazing control. I think it'll be likely that Caroline will realize she wants more than just a small town life - living in MF, in the perfect house with the perfect guy and being the perfect wife, mother, and community leader. That's not to say she'll rush off to NOLA and into Klaus' arms. It's just saying that she'll realize she wants more now. I think Klaus' words may come back to haunt her - the words he spoke when he saved her after Tyler's bite in S3. Can't recall the exact language, but he was telling her how beautiful the world was. Either that or she'll struggle with making a decision to take the cure; she'll finally decide to take it and before she can take the cure and/or tell Stefan, he dies. I really hope that she doesn't take it and THEN he dies. That's gonna be a kick in the face. I honestly don't think that Damon will die. I just can't see JP pissing off the Delana fans so spitefully. All the drama to make Delena happen, all the drama and ridiculousness to keep Elena's memory around after Nina left the show - I don't see Delana having anything but an HEA. Delena has been JP's fantasy from Day 1. SaveCaroline loves being a vampire but she loves her children and Stefan more IMO. Given the choice, I think she will take it. As for Delena. Yes they will get a happy ending in the sense that she will get to say him goodbye and she will be okay with his sacrifice because that will protect the people they both love. Saying that I do agree with you about JP Delena fantasy. This show as per JP is going to end on bitter sweet ending. What is more bitter sweet? Killing Steroline or Delena? I think killing damon will be perfect ending for this show and proper closure to his arc. How many more timers is Damon gonna die?Didn't he die twice in the last 2 episodes.Kai killed him to take his powers and in this episode Damon kills himself...Seriously another round of Damon 'dying' would be beyond absurd and ridiculous. |
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 25, 2017 7:36:27 GMT
Caroline loves being a vampire but she loves her children and Stefan more IMO. Given the choice, I think she will take it. As for Delena. Yes they will get a happy ending in the sense that she will get to say him goodbye and she will be okay with his sacrifice because that will protect the people they both love. Saying that I do agree with you about JP Delena fantasy. This show as per JP is going to end on bitter sweet ending. What is more bitter sweet? Killing Steroline or Delena? I think killing damon will be perfect ending for this show and proper closure to his arc. How many more timers is Damon gonna die?Didn't he die twice in the last 2 episodes.Kai killed him to take his powers and in this episode Damon kills himself...Seriously another round of Damon 'dying' would be beyond absurd and ridiculous. One more time after which he does not comes back. lol. Anywise that spoiler about Damon dying for Stefan and Elena came true even if it was temporary. Yep i get the frustration. |
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Post by imane074 on Feb 25, 2017 9:00:48 GMT
How many more timers is Damon gonna die?Didn't he die twice in the last 2 episodes.Kai killed him to take his powers and in this episode Damon kills himself...Seriously another round of Damon 'dying' would be beyond absurd and ridiculous. One more time after which he does not comes back. lol. Anywise that spoiler about Damon dying for Stefan and Elena came true even if it was temporary. Yep i get the frustration. Which is precisely why he's definitly not the one dying in the finale |
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