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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 5, 2017 21:32:35 GMT
For those who are watching the show... what is your opinion?
All of Delena fans are really upset that she did that without her OR Damon permission. She should have not have tried to use it for Enzo or what she did to Stefan.
I think it is okay what she did.
What do you think?
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Post by Allison on Feb 6, 2017 1:01:32 GMT
I think Elena would have been okay with it, especially under the circumstances. I kind of skipped through the episode, I'll probably be able to watch the episodes properly soon. In theory, Enzo getting the cure so that he and Bonnie could live their happy-ever-after and Damon getting it in his old age and then having their turn- and Elena cares for Bonnie and Stefan and she wouldn't want her best friend to die to preserve the cure or for the person she loves to lose his brother.
There will be unforeseen consequences but people just keep putting their own dislike for the characters to Elena, who cares for Bonnie and Stefan. Elena and Damon aren't as selfish as people make them out to be and the Delena fans need to remember both Elena and Damon have family and friends they care about, whom they'd rather lose their plans for than see die.
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Post by imane074 on Feb 12, 2017 9:17:55 GMT
Bonnie gave them the cure. Had she wanted it she shouldn't have given it to them.It wasn't hers anymore. Delena built all their futur plans on that cure. Now Bonnie took it stealing their futur. She had no right. She doesn't get to take it back just because she changed her mind and decided that she wanted what they wanted.It was beyond selfish.She backstabbed her 2 best friends just to be "happier" while they put their futur on hold so she can live her life. Damon could have left her to die and have his life with Elena immediatly.But Elena wouldn't have forgiven him.
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 12, 2017 15:29:04 GMT
Elena will not marry vampire Damon? Damon will not want to live with human Elena?
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Post by imane074 on Feb 12, 2017 17:13:39 GMT
Elena will not marry vampire Damon? Damon will not want to live with human Elena? Actually Damon did state that he would take the cure and be human just for the tiny chance for a futur with Elena, to be her husband, the father of her kids...that was their agreement before she was put to sleep
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 12, 2017 17:25:31 GMT
Elena will not marry vampire Damon? Damon will not want to live with human Elena? Actually Damon did state that he would take the cure and be human just for the tiny chance for a futur with Elena, to be her husband, the father of her kids...that was their agreement before she was put to sleep so its Elena who wouldnt marry Damon if he remains vampire. I get that. what sane person would want that. and that goes for Bonnie too but then the question is, is this true love? Changing a person for ur own needs is not true love. I guess now is her chance to select the brother who IS human afterall this is the story about a girl who cant choose between bros. but i hope he rejects her now
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Post by imane074 on Feb 12, 2017 18:33:00 GMT
Actually Damon did state that he would take the cure and be human just for the tiny chance for a futur with Elena, to be her husband, the father of her kids...that was their agreement before she was put to sleep so its Elena who wouldnt marry Damon if he remains vampire. I get that. what sane person would want that. and that goes for Bonnie too but then the question is, is this true love? Changing a person for ur own needs is not true love. I guess now is her chance to select the brother who IS human afterall this is the story about a girl who cant choose between bros. but i hope he rejects her now Sorry but no thanks. Stelena is dead. And Elena deserves better than to be 2nd choice and with the guy who wanted to kill her the way her parents died, she almost died and actually died. So no thanks.
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 12, 2017 18:37:34 GMT
so its Elena who wouldnt marry Damon if he remains vampire. I get that. what sane person would want that. and that goes for Bonnie too but then the question is, is this true love? Changing a person for ur own needs is not true love. I guess now is her chance to select the brother who IS human afterall this is the story about a girl who cant choose between bros. but i hope he rejects her now Sorry but no thanks. Stelena is dead. And Elena deserves better than to be 2nd choice and with the guy who wanted to kill her the way her parents died, she almost died and actually died. So no thanks. I think Stefan deserves better but that is the matter of opinion. Damon deserves Elena and vice versa. And this is not a compliment. Same goes for Haylijah.
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Post by imane074 on Feb 13, 2017 1:31:37 GMT
Sorry but no thanks. Stelena is dead. And Elena deserves better than to be 2nd choice and with the guy who wanted to kill her the way her parents died, she almost died and actually died. So no thanks. I think Stefan deserves better but that is the matter of opinion. Damon deserves Elena and vice versa. And this is not a compliment. Same goes for Haylijah. I don't think that Stefan or Damon deserve anything. For me they're unredeemable. Elena deserves so much better than both. Elena loved Stefan so much, when he dumped her and pushed her away she kept fighting for him, didn't give up on him.He didn't deserve her love. And Damon?He shouldn't have gotten a chance with her after what he did to Jeremy.Elena loved them both very much and neither one of them was worth it.She's not perfect but even with her flaws , she deserves so much better.
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 13, 2017 1:54:56 GMT
I think Stefan deserves better but that is the matter of opinion. Damon deserves Elena and vice versa. And this is not a compliment. Same goes for Haylijah. I don't think that Stefan or Damon deserve anything. For me they're unredeemable. Elena deserves so much better than both. Elena loved Stefan so much, when he dumped her and pushed her away she kept fighting for him, didn't give up on him.He didn't deserve her love. And Damon?He shouldn't have gotten a chance with her after what he did to Jeremy.Elena loved them both very much and neither one of them was worth it.She's not perfect but even with her flaws , she deserves so much better. matter of opinion. Things are still in her hand. if she deserves better and she thinks that she deserves better she still can grow a backbone and walk away from both the abominations. If she deserves better she wouldnt have fallen in love with two vampires.
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Post by imane074 on Feb 13, 2017 3:49:20 GMT
I don't think that Stefan or Damon deserve anything. For me they're unredeemable. Elena deserves so much better than both. Elena loved Stefan so much, when he dumped her and pushed her away she kept fighting for him, didn't give up on him.He didn't deserve her love. And Damon?He shouldn't have gotten a chance with her after what he did to Jeremy.Elena loved them both very much and neither one of them was worth it.She's not perfect but even with her flaws , she deserves so much better. matter of opinion. Things are still in her hand. if she deserves better and she thinks that she deserves better she still can grow a backbone and walk away from both the abominations. If she deserves better she wouldnt have fallen in love with two vampires. How does that make any sense to you?So for you when innocent people get hurt it's because they deserve it?Because that's what you're claimning with this.That is nonsense.Both have been poison to her .
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 13, 2017 4:13:17 GMT
matter of opinion. Things are still in her hand. if she deserves better and she thinks that she deserves better she still can grow a backbone and walk away from both the abominations. If she deserves better she wouldnt have fallen in love with two vampires. How does that make any sense to you?So for you when innocent people get hurt it's because they deserve it?Because that's what you're claimning with this.That is nonsense.Both have been poison to her . It was her own choice to chose poison. she could have walked away anytime but she didnt and she got the shorter end of the stick. Is is not there fault that she choose to eat that poison.
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Post by imane074 on Feb 13, 2017 14:44:25 GMT
How does that make any sense to you?So for you when innocent people get hurt it's because they deserve it?Because that's what you're claimning with this.That is nonsense.Both have been poison to her . It was her own choice to chose poison. she could have walked away anytime but she didnt and she got the shorter end of the stick. Is is not there fault that she choose to eat that poison. That she eats that poison doesn't mean that she deserves it or doesn't deserves better.
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Post by Madamimadam on Feb 13, 2017 15:42:31 GMT
It was her own choice to chose poison. she could have walked away anytime but she didnt and she got the shorter end of the stick. Is is not there fault that she choose to eat that poison. That she eats that poison doesn't mean that she deserves it or doesn't deserves better. No one deserves to die. Even people committing suicide (which is what Elena did by choosing Stefan and Damon) dont deserve to die but they have to take responsibilities for their actions. I am just responding to your "deserve" comment. You are acting as if it is all Damon and Stefan's fault that she is in this situation and she was innocent and did nothing to deserve that. How can you say that? A person trying to kill himself does not deserve to be free of taking responsibility of his actions? Elena is very much responsible for what happened to her. Anyways with you being hard core Elena fan and me not that, I think it is unending discussion. You will never be able to convince me and I will never be able to convince you. Lets agree to disagree on what Elena deserves or type of character she is. This is going to be my last post on this topic with you. If you want to continue feel free to do so.
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Post by imane074 on Feb 13, 2017 21:02:12 GMT
That she eats that poison doesn't mean that she deserves it or doesn't deserves better. No one deserves to die. Even people committing suicide (which is what Elena did by choosing Stefan and Damon) dont deserve to die but they have to take responsibilities for their actions. I am just responding to your "deserve" comment. You are acting as if it is all Damon and Stefan's fault that she is in this situation and she was innocent and did nothing to deserve that. How can you say that? A person trying to kill himself does not deserve to be free of taking responsibility of his actions? Elena is very much responsible for what happened to her. Anyways with you being hard core Elena fan and me not that, I think it is unending discussion. You will never be able to convince me and I will never be able to convince you. Lets agree to disagree on what Elena deserves or type of character she is. This is going to be my last post on this topic with you. If you want to continue feel free to do so. Yes I think that Elena deserves better than the brothers. I don't see how her falling for them makes her deserve everything they put her through
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